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What are your guys definition of bigger and stronger though? Like bodybuilder strong or strongman competition strong? Or just athletic strength? I consider myself larger than normal in mass but I'm dwarfed by some of the gigantors in my gym. Not all of them are taking test or steroids, some just live at the gym. None of them are lifting a tonne more than I am though and I don't go beyond iso and creatine.
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