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deltav · 03-19-2014, 05:51 PM

No argument there. Nations seem to only uphold treaties when it's in their interests (as the Native Americans are well aware now).

On the other hand, when you honor binding terms of treaties made years beforehand without regard for the context or possible effects, you get shit like WWI. Read The Guns Of August for a great account of how a huge fucking war started that literally not a single participant really wanted.

What honestly does anyone expect the West to do here? Send in troops? When you've got boots on the ground on high alert all it takes is one miscalculation to start a war, and even aside from that things have a way of snowballing.

I actually think the West is doing the smartest approach. Minor sanctions, with room for more painful ones, let Russia have Crimea and discover in the next couple years that it's a dirt poor region that can't support itself, with a possible growing Muslim insurgency as jihadists come from all over to "help" the Tatars.

Everyone is jumping to conclusions about how Putin just bitch-slapped the West, when in fact Crimea may not be the prize everyone's strangely assuming it is. I think in a few years the verdict will be "more trouble than it was worth".

Now if Russia moves into Eastern Ukraine, that would change things. Putin is smart though, I don't see it.

03-19-2014, 05:51 PM
deltav Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,243	No argument there. Nations seem to only uphold treaties when it's in their interests (as the Native Americans are well aware now). On the other hand, when you honor binding terms of treaties made years beforehand without regard for the context or possible effects, you get shit like WWI. Read The Guns Of August for a great account of how a huge fucking war started that literally not a single participant really wanted. What honestly does anyone expect the West to do here? Send in troops? When you've got boots on the ground on high alert all it takes is one miscalculation to start a war, and even aside from that things have a way of snowballing. I actually think the West is doing the smartest approach. Minor sanctions, with room for more painful ones, let Russia have Crimea and discover in the next couple years that it's a dirt poor region that can't support itself, with a possible growing Muslim insurgency as jihadists come from all over to "help" the Tatars. Everyone is jumping to conclusions about how Putin just bitch-slapped the West, when in fact Crimea may not be the prize everyone's strangely assuming it is. I think in a few years the verdict will be "more trouble than it was worth". Now if Russia moves into Eastern Ukraine, that would change things. Putin is smart though, I don't see it. __________________ ********* DeltaofVenus.com - Vintage Erotica from the 1800s through 1979