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Old 02-10-2014, 08:46 AM  
Minte
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Originally Posted by crockett View Post
I posted the entire paragraph.. No one is refuting that the sentence is in the report it's there I posted it in my quote. What we are refuting is what Vend went on to say by "using" the sentence out of context. He's trying to say that because there will be a cut in jobs that that equals Obamacare is hurting the economy.

When myself and others brought up the fact that it's people choosing to leave jobs because they don't need them just for insurance. We were told that obviously everyone wants to work and any job cuts means people sucking off the govt tit. Robbie went on to mimic this very position. 12clicks as well..

This was 12clicks little gem..



Robbie went on to tell how everyone should want to work, because he has no intention to ever retire. Meaning there obviously can't be any reason people would quit their jobs unless they are lazy...

Here is one of his gems from this topic...



Obviously it's all Obamacares fault... Relentless went on to post yet another article that debunked the idea and rather than reading the article and debating it. Robbie just claimed Rolling Stone is too liberal so obviously the article can't be correct...

Vend went on to tell us again ACA was gonna kill all the jobs ...again..



The funny thing, is the report actually stated that the workforce would grow, despite the 2 million expected jobs that people will leave because they no longer need it. Hey of course Vend didn't read that part of page 117 either...


Honestly Minte you are a fairly smart guy I'd assume. Do yo really think spreading ignorance as Vend does daily with half facts and cherry picked info is the best way to convince people that Republican's stance is correct? If they are correct, then why is it they always resort to trying to fool people?
I am going to sum all of that up as briefly as possible. I am a member of the Chamber of Commerce, The Les Aspin Institute, The State of WI. Manufacturers Association, and the State of WI. apprenticeship division. Since Obamacare first became law it has been a hot topic at every meeting I attend. All of my daily business time is spent with other business people. Mostly in manufacturing and in the supply chain.

Since obamacare became law it has been viewed by everyone I deal with as a negative on the economy and their individual businesses. For the first 2 years since it was passed, there was the unknown, It put a big gray cloud. People that had money to invest didn't because they weren't sure what the impact of obamacare would be. Once it became more clear what the impact was going to be, people started planning for it. That was important. Business people do much better when they can plan, rather than simply reacting.

Unfortunately, from what I hear the planning for it stage is not going to do much to grow the economy. A lot of business people still hold out hope that the mandate will be dropped. If you don't believe me..look up the growth in the machine tool industry, They are doing great.
Selling lots of new automated equipment.

You can argue the point about whether automation will add jobs. It's what I do for a living and I can say with certainty it won't add jobs. It will add profits.
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