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Originally Posted by Minte
News is about bullet points. I went to page 117 of the CBO pdf and read what Venz posted in context. If anyone wants to read the entire report it's there. I still have no idea how you can refute the statement he posted.
It's right there on the Congressional Budget Report. I could take a screen capture of it and post it. If he had posted the entire page, you would've picked one statement and argued it. Completely ignoring everything else.
At the end of the day, I don't really care much about any of it. If Obamacare is a good thing for the nation then great.. if not, it will crash and burn. The republicans will win the senate, and that will be the end of obamacare as it's currently written.
Officially, take out the mandate. Acknowledge the fact that we have millions of illegal aliens in the country and they will need healthcare too. I am not against healthcare reform. I pay the premium for a large group. It's ridiculous at how much we pay for garbage coverage.
Something needs to be fixed. But not obamacare as it's written.
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I posted the entire paragraph.. No one is refuting that the sentence is in the report it's there I posted it in my quote. What we are refuting is what Vend went on to say by "using" the sentence out of context. He's trying to say that because there will be a cut in jobs that that equals Obamacare is hurting the economy.
When myself and others brought up the fact that it's people choosing to leave jobs because they don't need them just for insurance. We were told that obviously everyone wants to work and any job cuts means people sucking off the govt tit. Robbie went on to mimic this very position. 12clicks as well..
This was 12clicks little gem..
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Originally Posted by 12clicks
or put another way, the government, by taking from the productive class and giving to the leech class, now allows the leech class to work less than they already do.
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Robbie went on to tell how everyone should want to work, because he has no intention to ever retire. Meaning there obviously can't be any reason people would quit their jobs unless they are lazy...
Here is one of his gems from this topic...
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Originally Posted by Robbie
From the stats I've heard, the workforce is already greatly reduced.
And getting smaller everyday. Which means the tax base is reduced. Which also means the economy can't "recover" because people don't have jobs and money to spend. They are "taking" instead of contributing in much larger numbers.  |
Obviously it's all Obamacares fault... Relentless went on to post yet another article that debunked the idea and rather than reading the article and debating it. Robbie just claimed Rolling Stone is too liberal so obviously the article can't be correct...
Vend went on to tell us again ACA was gonna kill all the jobs ...again..
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla
So what you're saying you want "change" I remember someone promising that!
In the mean time, the CBO is blaming the ACA for a reduced workforce, something that has been getting smaller and smaller since 2000. The current administration has done nothing to fix that, it is in no way a good thing for our economy or our tax base. If the population is growing and the workforce is getting smaller, our economy is going to suffer.
Which is why the outlook for our economy is bad!
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The funny thing, is the report actually stated that the workforce would grow, despite the 2 million expected jobs that people will leave because they no longer need it. Hey of course Vend didn't read that part of page 117 either...
Honestly Minte you are a fairly smart guy I'd assume. Do yo really think spreading ignorance as Vend does daily with half facts and cherry picked info is the best way to convince people that Republican's stance is correct? If they are correct, then why is it they always resort to trying to fool people?