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Originally Posted by crockett
He didn't need to post 200 pages.. He only needed to read the paragraph in which his entire post was biased on. I realize you guys love to stick up for each other Mint, but don't you think that if you really wanted other people to be convinced that you are right, that you would at least present the info in accurate form?
He copied and pasted a single sentence then went on to tell us his opinion on how that one sentence proved that Obamacare was going to cause the economy to fail and it's just the proof he needed to tell us all once again how bad Obamacare is.
Other people came in and showed him that the cut in jobs was not due to companies cutting back, but rather people quitting jobs that they only had to have insurance. Of course he claimed it was BS opinion but it wasn't it was right from the same report he used to create this topic. Of course we now have 6 pages of arguing based on his misrepresentation of using a single sentence out of context.
After I posted it in context as it shows in the actual report it's amazing that it says just what others in this topic said it did and vend and the others kept denying.
Don't you think if you wanted to convince people you were right, that it's best to use facts and present them with out cherry picking and trying to make it seem it says something it doesn't? Of course not if you have a an agenda which is harmed by actual truth and facts..
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News is about bullet points. I went to page 117 of the CBO pdf and read what Venz posted in context. If anyone wants to read the entire report it's there. I still have no idea how you can refute the statement he posted.
It's right there on the Congressional Budget Report. I could take a screen capture of it and post it. If he had posted the entire page, you would've picked one statement and argued it. Completely ignoring everything else.
At the end of the day, I don't really care much about any of it. If Obamacare is a good thing for the nation then great.. if not, it will crash and burn. The republicans will win the senate, and that will be the end of obamacare as it's currently written.
Officially, take out the mandate. Acknowledge the fact that we have millions of illegal aliens in the country and they will need healthcare too. I am not against healthcare reform. I pay the premium for a large group. It's ridiculous at how much we pay for garbage coverage.
Something needs to be fixed. But not obamacare as it's written.