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Originally Posted by Rochard
There is no job loss.
People like my wife who work because their healthcare costs with pre-existing conditions are $2k a month are forced to work to afford healthcare. Now with Obamacare it will cost one forth of that to cover all three of us... Thus, she no longer has to work.
Don't you get this? She can work thirty hours a week and get healthcare for free or helathcare will cost her $2k a month. Now she doesn't have to work and she can stay at home. She's not going to go on unemployment or any kind of aid what so ever.
There are millions of people in the same exact circumstances.
I have a friend of mine who is married with three kids. His wife and his son both have medical life long / life threatening medical issues that are considered pre-existing. His wife requires treatment every month. Their healthcare costs them 60% of their combined income every month. With Obamacare they will be able to switch healthcare plans for the first time in over a decade, and their healthcare costs will go down by fifty percent. His wife will no longer have to work two crappy jobs to make ends meet.
People like this who work ONLY because they need healthcare will no longer need to work. They aren't going to loose their jobs or go on employment; Not everyone needs to work. This will free up two million jobs, which will further reduce unemployment without any costs to us taxpayers.
This is win win for everyone, and you are trying to turn this into a bad thing. It's not.
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I'm happy for everyone in your story. That's the good in the situation...
Now here's the bad: their gain is someone else's loss. Their reduction in costs is now being covered by others who aren't sick or in need of such elaborate services. There's a story out there of some guy also barely able to survive or maybe trying to finally get ahead, who is trying to do right and climb up the corporate ladder, and now his healthcare cost just tripled. Except the reality is the gain in the stories you described likely hurt more people on the other side than it helped on your side.
That's how government works. The government fucks up almost everything it touches for the most part.
If someone has a bad medical condition and it's clear that they are the cost, shouldn't the majority of that cost be borne onto them and not everyone else?
That's not to say their shouldn't be help or the situation isn't bad, but I personally want to live in a world where there is more personal responsibility than shared help, vs the other way around.