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In case you didn't listen to or watch the entire 2 hours and 45 minutes, or want Cliffs Notes, the folks at Time have made things easier for you with this:
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What You Missed While Not Watching the Bill Nye and Ken Ham Creation Debate
Here it is. All 150 minutes of it.
-13 minutes. The online countdown clock races toward zero. Dramatic music with a heavy bass line begins to play. Hashtags sprout in Twitterspace: #HamOnNye. #CreationDebate. #NyevSham.
One could easily add, #OMGWeAreDebatingCreationIn2014. Fasten your seatbelts. It?s going to be a long 150-minute return of the culture wars, because creationist Ken Ham is about to debate Bill Nye the Science Guy.
-5 minutes. The epic Braveheart-Lord-of-the-Rings-style soundtrack intensifies. Only thing missing is a sweeping camera pan over the horizon as Frodo travels on toward Mount Doom.
Ham and his PR team are firing away tweet after tweet about the debate and its importance. Nye, meanwhile, has tweeted about it only once. Al Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, tweets for prayers that the debate will reveal God?s truth.
0 minutes. A cartoon camel, a T-Rex, and a flying monkey flash across the screen. It?s a surprise ad for the Creation Museum in Petersburg, KY, Ham?s (unaccredited) $27-million museum that is the site for the debate. Kids under 12 are free in 2014!
30 seconds. The feed takes us live inside the museum?s Legacy Hall, where a lucky 900 people managed to score tickets to the event before they sold out in two minutes. Some 750,000 other people are watching the debate online. At least according to Ham?s evangelistic organization, Answers in Genesis.
1 minute. CNN?s Tom Foreman appears out of the darkness. He?s moderator, and the guy who wrote Obama a letter every day for four years. This isn?t exactly the same as moderating a presidential debate, but tonight?s symposium gets at something far more important: the origin of life. Foreman introduces the topic at hand: ?Is creation a viable model of origins in today?s modern scientific era??
2 minutes. Nye, in his signature bowtie, and Ham, with his Aussie accent, hop on stage, shake hands, and ready themselves behind their respective Apple laptops (only Nye?s has stickers). Nye stands on the left. Ham is on the right. The cameras pan to an all-white audience.
4 minutes. Ham won the coin toss, so he?s up first with an opening statement: the word science has been hijacked, hijacked by secularists. America?s textbooks have been indoctrinated by Darwin, and we need to take back the terms. He starts listing scientists who believe biblical creationism, and he?s got a slide show to back it up. His voice races as he talks about Raymond Damadian, the inventor of the MRI machine, who is a biblical creationist. Nye just stares at him.
9 minutes. Ham gets in his first Bible references. They are, predictably, about Jesus, not the creation story.
10 minutes. Now it?s Nye?s turn. He launches into an unrelated and awkward story about how someone taught his father to tie a bow tie by making him lie down on a bed.
13 minutes. Moving right along, Nye drops the first references to fossils and the Grand Canyon. The world is not 6000 years old as Ham believes, Nye says. And if America doesn?t get its act together to listen to scientific evidence, it won?t stay ahead. America?s future depends on evolution.
15 minutes. Now Nye and Ham each get 30 minutes (!) to present their full arguments. Everyone who has ever worked in presidential politics is drooling over the generosity of those allocations.
16 minutes. Ham starts saying the words ?science? and ?observe? so many times I lose count. He is clicking through slide after slide of atheists who are great scientists and scientists who believe the earth is 6,000 years old. The MRI scanner guy story appears on a video again.
Then someone else says he and other scientists are afraid to speak out for creationism because they will face persecution. These are Ham?s freedom fighters. ?I encourage children to follow people like that and make them their heroes,? Ham announces.
21 minutes. Next point. There?s a difference between what you observe in science today and the making a conclusion about science of the past. Lots of slides of vaccines and smoke detectors and other important inventions. We can agree about technology that put the rover on Mars, Ham says, but we can disagree about the origins of Mars. ?We?ve only got the present,? he explains.
23 minutes. Cue graphic of Nye and Ham fighting in a tug of war over a globe of the earth with animals and skulls coming out of it. This image is supposed to represent the fact that both Ham and Nye have the same evidence. It instead looks like toddlers fighting over a balloon.
26 minutes. Ham gives a shout out to his museum?s display of Darwin?s finches. Finches come from a common finch, Ham argues, not another common animal. That?s why Noah only needed one species of dog on the ark. ?Dogs will always be dogs, finches will always be finches,? he says. Cuz the Bible. And a recent University of California study. Lots of furrowed brows in the crowd.
30 minutes. Apple is still getting great product placement out of this debate.
34 minutes. Darwin taught that there were higher and lower races ? not ok, says Ham. If he had started from the Bible, he?d have realized that Caucasians weren?t the top race. He skips any mention of the fact that the Bible was used to justify slavery for centuries.
36 minutes. Students are being indoctrinated by the confusion of terms. ?You can?t observe the age of the earth. You can?t see that.? The camera finally finds the first African American face in the audience.
39 minutes. Time for Ham?s ?Seven C?s? of life: Creation, Corruption, Catastrophe, Confusion, Christ, Cross, Consummation. And no, consummation is not the sex kind. Consummation is heaven. (But speaking of sex, stick around for minute 64 ? that?s when talk about fish sex starts. Just wait for it.)
46 minutes. Nye begins: ?I learned something. Thank you.? He fails to define ?something.?
47 minutes. Nye holds up a chunk of dirt. Limestone actually. Kentucky limestone. He found it today, and says it couldn?t have existed if ?Mr. Ham?s flood? really happened only 4,000 years ago. ?Mr. Ham? is taking notes off to the side.
53 minutes. Nye explains the Kangaroo conundrum. If there was a kangaroo on Noah?s ark, and Noah?s ark landed somewhere in the middle east, and kangaroos ended up in Australia, why haven?t we found kangaroo bones somewhere between Sinai and Australia? ?Somebody would have been hopping along there and died and we?d find him.? Something like that.
58 minutes. ?Go Seahawks. That was very gratifying for me.? #NyeNonsequitor
59 minutes. Back to explaining why rock formations in Oregon prove Nye?s side of the story.
60 minutes. We?ve made an hour. Crack your neck. Stretch your shoulders. We aren?t halfway done yet. You need all your strength to press on.
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