Originally Posted by Robbie

crockett...that's the way debate goes between two opposing sides.

You are EXACTLY the same way. You think you are right and you never change your mind either.

Instead of attacking each other...how about everybody argue the points instead. Let the IDEAS be what decides who "wins" instead of fighting with each other personally.

Both you and vendzilla obviously want the best outcome for everyone. You just disagree on how to get from Point A to Point B.

Yes, what he thinks seems stupid to you because you THINK you have it all solved. And what you think seems stupid to him because he THINKS he has it all solved.

Get past that, and realize that neither of you have the complete answer.
Right now, your ideology is in the fire because ObamaCare is happening...and it's not exactly going according to plan.

You have to realize it's horribly flawed. And you're gonna take some lumps for that in the arena of ideas.

If it magically turns around and health care costs actually do drop $2,500 per family as the Pres. promised and all is unicorns and rainbows...then you will be able to boast about it.

But neither you nor Vendzilla are responsible for the condition our country is in.

The people responsible are the career/lifetime Democrats and Republicans in Washington D.C.
They fucked it up. Not you, not Vendzilla.

So try to keep that in mind when you vent your frustration and anger.