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Old 01-21-2014, 11:04 PM  
2MuchMark
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Originally Posted by dyna mo View Post
But that's what you do, just like in this thread. You say peeps should pick up a science book, then go on to say laptop batteries are the same as the batteries in the Tesla. I posted a chart 2x showing the basic difference for you, which you disregarded.

That's why I like replying to your comments, btw, so don't you go changing!
Dynamo,

I didn't answer you yet because I really don't know how to answer you. I'm not a chemistry major and I wanted to do some research before answering you.

You said in your post that the batteries are not the same, and you posted a chart:



If you look at the very bottom of the chart you posted it says "Table 1: Reference names for Li-ion (Lithium Ion) batteries. All of the batteries are Lithium Ion, and are used in cars & computers. The chemical composition may be different for different types of batteries but this is to be expected. I don't know which of the compounds in each of the batteries is more polluting than the other, but this is not the point. I am happy to say that All of them have pollution issues when it comes to the manufacturing process, especially if the plant that makes them dumps waste instead of process & recycle it properly.



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Originally Posted by Vendzilla View Post
Maybe in Canada, but stop lights are used to keep traffic going sounds a little weird. Do you run red lights a lot in Canada?
Wow... now you're trolling. Without traffic lights, your city would be in 24/7 gridlock and save lives. Sure they're a nuisance when you've got to get from A to B, but really man... fuck.. now you're anti traffic-light?

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You do know that Hydrogen is made from water right?
Sigh... I guess you didn't read my post. Yes there's Hydrogen in water, but it is not the only source.

Allow me to school you on SCIENCE 101. Hydrogen powered cars convert Hydrogen into electriciy with something called a Fuel Cell. At first it seems like a GREAT idea because (Hey! It's electric!) and Hey Hey! It produces zero emissions except for WATER (Yes, Water comes out of the tail pipe in a Hydrogen powered car) and heat.

The Hydrogen fuel to power your car can come from water, and it can also come from Natural gas. A process called steam reformation can be used to separate the hydrogen in the gas from the carbon and is the most common way to get Hydrogen. If the point of using Hydrogen in cars is to save the earth, getting it from Natural gas is the worst possible way to do it because surprise - it ads CO2 and other crap to the atmosphere.

By the time Hydrogen is put into your tank the cost to you is almost the same as regular gas too, not including the cost of the carbon footprint.

Besides that, the cost is high. You need the cars to run on them, and you need the infrastructure to fuel them as I said earlier. The cars are very expensive - over $100,000 right now. Then there's the storage of Hydrogen. Did you know that Hydrogen expands when it gets warm? To make sure the thanks don't explode, Hydrogen powered cars have to vent some gas to reduce the pressure if the car is parked in the sun for too long. Leave your car out for a few days, and the tank will be empty.

So really, really? Tell me fucking why you think Hydrogen is a better solution than plug-in electric. Come fucking on...
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