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Originally Posted by dyna mo View Post

thanks for the reply ADG.
No prob. I'm not trying to come off as any type of expert. As with everything, I say do your own research (links provided).



Saw this on one of the cannabis forums:

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Some friends of mine got together and bought a vaporizer. They have smoked off of it for a week, and the reaction towards it has varied from "I hate it, it doesnt get me high" to "Wow... this is the highest I've ever been in my life." So they got together to talk about their experiences with using a vaporizer and have come up with a few observations.

The things that they found to be true should be similar for any high-end vaporizer. I would recommend against using any vaporizer that costs less than 300 dollars, namely because these vaporizers often use substitute parts that can be hazardous to your health, such as plastics that release toxic fumes, and often have little control of temperature, sometimes releasing tars in the process.

- Weed will seem to last up to four times as long. You can buy a gram or a gram and a half and get a whole group of people high. None of my friends were ever able to successfully finish a full bowl off of the volcano to themselves, they simply got too high to keep going. It's funny to see a group of people slowly just shake their head when a bag off of a volcano vaporizer is passed to them, refusing to let themselves get more stoned.

- Vaporized weed tastes GREAT! Stems and seeds turn into schwag, schwag turns into KB, KB turns into chronic, and chronic... well, there is no name for the way it tastes whenever you vaporize it.

- Vaporized weed smells very little. The smell is there, and noticeable, for all of 2 minutes.

- The vaporizer high is VERY different from the smoking high. The vaporizer high seems to ignore couch lock and allows you to function, albeit it will still leave you stoned and happy, possibly more stoned and happy than you've ever been. Its a very energetic brain-buzz.

- The vaporizer high DURATION seems to be shorter than the smoking high duration. This may be because smoking is done over a longer period of time, but people complain about not being able to get high for as long as they can on a joint or a blunt.

- Cigarette smokers seem to crave cigarettes VERY heavily after smoking out of the volcano. We are not sure why this is.

If you have some comments on my friends' observations, please go ahead and let them out. Feel free to also add your own friends' observations.
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The high from a vaporizer is mostly THC. This is the quality to which SWIM attributes the "clear, clean" high from a volcano, unlike when normally smoking, which adds in many other cannabinoids which, though fun, can cause mild sedation/laziness
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There are a few reasons for lost THC in combustion-based ingestion, one of which is in fact the destruction of THC via pyrolysis which yield up to 100 different chemicals. A major portion lost, especially in joints is due to slipstream smoke. For glass, adhesion is a primary loss factor.

Some numbers*
Efficiency of:

Unfiltered joint:
1/13 Cannabanoid/Tar
~20% THC in sample
Single Percolation Waterpipe or Bong:
1/16.9 C/T
Small waterpipe ~25%, Bong ~15% of THC in sample
Filtered joint:
1/16.9 C/T
~20% of sample
Hotplate Vaporizer:
1/9.75 C/T
~10% of sample
Modern Hot Air Vaporizer:
~9/1 C/T
~60% of THC in sample


Notable difference between vaporizer and combustion-based methods: Due to prolonged exposure and reduced pyrolysis, THC oxidizes to CBN and CBD at a much higher than usual rate, resulting in a less psychoactive smoke, with more physically stimulating components. Thus, more of a "stoney" inebriation results from a vaporizer.
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CBN (Cannabinol) and CBD (Cannabidol) are the oxidized analogues of THC. They are non-psychoactive as in have no impact on neurological functions but rather stimulate physical receptors as opposed to psychologically active receptors. This does not mean that the smoke is less inebriating, but that the intoxication is physical rather than psychological.

CBN and CBD ingestion results in physical analgesia and pleasure, as well as other physical stimulations commonly associated with a 'stoney' high as opposed to a 'giddy' high. These analogues are also employed in pain-management based medicinal marijuana.

Simply put, there will be less giggles, and more 'chill-time'. This degradation is not only a process caused by heat and heat-based decarboxylization (as well as decarb. in the stomach), but also a natural trait of production that varies between strains.

Indica dominant strains (Kushs) have higher CBN and CBD contents, while Sativa dominant strains have higher THC v. CBN/CBD contents. Kafiristanica, or "diesel" strains have an even higher THC content with a remarkably low CBN/CBD component, resulting in an almost entirely psychoactive intoxication with little to no physical action.
I'm happy that smarter people than myself developed a better healthier process for enjoying the positive effects of cannabis consumption.

As the stigma and legal ramifications of using cannabis are reduced, I believe that society will find the positive impact of legalization outweighs the negative impacts.



Additionally, I hope that a day will come that politicians do not use cannabis simply as a tax vehicle, and stop taxing the hell out of cannabis (as they are currently doing). If for no other reason, I think that the tax issues may spur people on to start growing their own cannabis (it's really pretty easy, and is quite economical once you have a plan for growing and harvesting throughout the year). For now, taxes are at least making many politicians more amenable to legalization.



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