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Old 11-21-2013, 01:40 PM  
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Originally Posted by sperbonzo View Post

No. You missed the point. The logic is that if we are going to have a system where a group of people can use the government to make other people to give them money by threat of violence, then there should at least be severe restrictions on what can be bought with that money. It should be restricted to only those things needed for survival. This would NOT include alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, candy, soda, movies, cable TV, etc.... Anything that does not include food, clothes, housing, health and education. Sound too onerous? I find it onerous that if people around you decide that they want to give money, they can use the force of government to take yours also.

...and just for the record, I give both my time and my money to several charitable causes.

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The idea of routinely drug testing applicants for unemployment insurance is mean-spirited and misguided. Unemployment insurance is a program explicitly grounded in individuals' work history, involuntary job loss, and willingness to work?individuals' "work" underwrites the "insurance" that provides income replacement during unemployment.

In normal times, unemployment spells are typically only a few months, but everyone knows these are not normal times. Extreme unemployment, though, is no reason to impose extreme conditions on law-abiding Americans seeking the unemployment insurance assistance they've earned.
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People who lose their jobs because of drug use or failed drug tests are ineligible for unemployment insurance in 20 states already. In the remaining 30 states, a drug-related discharge would likely be treated as disqualifying misconduct.

Drug testing al welfare recipients perpetuates myths and scapegoats the unemployed.

Drug-testing proposals stem from false assumptions that the unemployed are lazy drug users who prefer unemployment checks to paychecks. Aside from being wrong, this assumption completely misunderstands what unemployment insurance does: It assists workers who've lost their jobs involuntarily, generally for economic reasons.

Economic reasons also explain why so many of today's unemployed workers haven't found new jobs: There simply aren't enough to replace those we've lost. For nearly three years now, unemployed workers have outnumbered job openings by more than 4 to 1.

Proposals to drug test the unemployed are insensitive to the realities of today's economy, ignorant of the implications of such policies, and insulting to millions of law-abiding Americans who already bear the heaviest burdens of a weak economy.
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