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Old 11-15-2013, 02:20 PM  
DAMNMAN
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Originally Posted by Relentless View Post
We discussed all this at length at the time over on JBM. There are just as many frustrated liberals as there are nonliberals. The 'error' recorded in history will not be that Obamacare went too far, it will be that it did not go far enough. Unless, they manage to patch and fix it while addressing the other items I listed. What bothers me most is that many people think the alternative to Obamacare is what we had before... rather than what we should have.

What we had before was worse than Obamacare, arguing to go back to it is nonsensical. Yet, the GOP is so busy trying to do their dog and pony show for political points that they aren't even attempting to move us to what we should have, and the Democrats are so politically locked into calling Obamacare successful that they aren't going to move us toward what we should have either. Frustrating when, as much as we disagree about politics, even we could probably have hammered out the framework of a real working health system over the course of a holiday weekend or two.
Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. This plan sucks ass and the old way sucks more ass.
We in the US should have health care the same way as the rest of the civilized world. Call it socialized medicine if you want, but the US should have it. We drive on roads that the GOV builds and we don't bitch about that!!!

The republican party has persuaded the religious right that they should keep paying big corporations for their shitty health care, because they shouldn't pay for freeloaders to have health care. It's all big business and the politicians are corrupted by the insurance companies.
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