Originally Posted by TheSquealer

This is what i was saying. Its not about "adult" or "tours". People have this idea that somehow adult is different than other business. Business is business. Management is management. Products are products. Services are services. Marketing is marketing etc etc etc.

The "great tours"/"shitty members area" is and always has been the plague of the industry because its a business full of dysfunctional morons who think more about how to screw people today, than build for tomorrow. You felt burned due to the misalignment you experienced between the tour and members area and felt misled and ripped off because expectations were created in your mind, you joined with those exact expectations and then those expectations were not met once you paid and you felt robbed.

I am not really talking about you. I just can't understand how people could even be having these conversations. The question is literally, "should I advertise what i expect people to pay for" - "should i create an alignment of expectations with what they are paying for". It's silly that it even needs to be discussed.

The other eternally retarded discussion of this biz is "do ugly tours convert better". Ugly... nice... its irrelevant. Its about clarity. Is it clear to the user where he is. Is it clear what is being offered to the user. Is it clear there is value to what is being offered. Is it clear what he needs to do to get it. Is the process of getting it, clear.