Originally Posted by dyna mo

look, i am not saying we were all better not knowing things like merkel;s cell phone and 60 million spainards were snooped in 1 month. i am saying that looking at this in hindsight, we are all not better now that we know. more importantly, as a consequence, the nsa has replied to it all by stating unequivocally that they snoop and they will continue to, no changes. obama has come out and said the nsa is well and good. no legislation reigning in the nsa has passed nor have any bills of any real consequence been introduced.

i don't see why people feel the need to argue those facts, just to cling to thinking snowden is a hero? that makes no sense. we all need to realize that nothing good is resulting from this.

i'm not trying to be right here, i'd very much like to be wrong, that's why i've asked 3x what good has resulted. i would in fact like something good to come from this.