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Old 10-28-2013, 08:45 PM  
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Fuckin' wow.

Ok, here's a crapload: http://www.theguardian.com/world/the-nsa-files

To make it easy for ya, I picked out some key ones
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...on-court-order
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...iants-nsa-data
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...nce-programmes
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ithout-warrant
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...thorised-obama
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...am-online-data



It's completely irrelevant to this discussion, as is their shitty human rights record. They have no control over the publishing of these documents. None.
I'm not going to argue tit for tat.

The first article talks about telephone data. The phone companies themselves (as well as Facebook and Google) deny this is happening. Are they listening on conversations - seems not. At the same time if any of this is true, they have a warrant so no laws have been broken.

So in short...
- The companies involved deny this.
- The NSA isn't listening in on phone calls.
- They seem to have a warrant for what they are doing.

On top of this, the website you mention gives conflicting information - the first article says they have a warrent, yet this link says they don't: http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ithout-warrant

So which is it?

I still believe that everyone is jumping on the bandwagon here. Everyone thinks the NSA is running hog wild, yet there is very little evidence of any illegal activity.
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