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Originally Posted by Mike_Teencash
I love this post. Long time atheist. It is hard to argue with someone who believes in the tooth fairy or Santa Claus...or god.
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What is hard to *discuss* a subject with someone that is ignorant. I will bet that more than 95% of self-proclaimed athiests have never bothered to read any religion's sacred texts or hav done any kind of exploration or research into the relationship of minkind and faith doctrines.
Which is just as bad as those that profess to a particular faith without any attempt at a scholarly effort.
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Originally Posted by Jel
Actually after replying I can see now what you were getting at, I assume you meant religion thinks it knows more than science when it comes to the creation/development of Earth & humans. Yep, they're obviously wrong on that count, but it's probably about the only thing they believe they know better on when it comes to science - I read your previous post as they thought that in general - my bad if that wasn't the case 
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I have not yet stated what my beliefs are other than to say that I can glimpse what can be refered to as Devine because of science.
But to respond to your comments, I think we are a vilolent, narcisstic and arrogant species. Anyone claiming that there is no God simply because of a handful "Gee-whizz-look-what-we-can-do" techno tricks is nothting short of the utmost pathetic example of primate arrogance in existance. It is perhaps worst than someone putting on a funny outfit and claiming to speak for something called "God."
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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN
I did say "my working model" of things in my post. Working models change based on new data and mine changes as need be. Never once has the existence of god been added to my model. Not enough credibility to make it in there.
I don't have to prove what cannot be proven to assert my confidence in reason, logic and scientific process.
"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens
"The onus is on you to say why, the onus is not on the rest of us to say why not." - Richard Dawkins
Also, if there is a god he/she/it knows just how much proof I require to believe a thing to be true. As of yet the cunt is withholding the required amount of proof.!!!
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I know understand your "YOUTUBE" based perspective and I reiterate my prevous commentary about not being able to discuss any subject with ignorance. Unfortunately I have found that it appears that the vast majority of Internet based conversations tend to revolve around youtube, wikipedia and someone's blog about kittens.
All I will say is that there are many things that we do NOT know in this universe... And most likely a great number more that we do NOT know because we have no idea of what it is we are supposed to not know.