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Originally Posted by brentbacardi
Since I started eating a diet of about 75% meat, 15% eggs/dairy, 10% Vegatables/Oats. I have more energy, generally feel better, lost a bunch of flab, and increased my libido very noticeably. So I think eating meat is obviously much healthier, how do you defend against that?
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Firstly, any diet with correct calorie content will result in you have a healthy lifestyle. I'm not saying that eating meat is unhealthy, I'm saying that eating meat is
unethical. These are two very different things.
Also, you haven't compared this to anything. Have you tried a vegan diet? Have you been open to the idea that it's possible to be healthy without needing meat? I'm sure there are plenty of healthy people that have animal products in their diet, although I can give you great examples of people that abstain from animal products and are still very healthy. Extremely healthy, in fact.
He runs 15 miles to work and 15 miles home every day. He has one of the fastest times over 100 miles and he has an extreme version of veganism - one that only utilizes fruits and vegetables. What I'm saying here is that it's more than possible to be healthy with meat in your diet, but it's also more than possible to be healthy without meat in your diet.
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Originally Posted by brentbacardi
Also, you cannot argue something with morals, morals are completely meaningless in terms of logic.
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I don't think you quite understand what I mean here. A logical argument for morality is certainly possible. For instance:
1. I believe that any sound action is one that produces more good than harm
2. I believe that the consumption of animal products produces more harm than good
3. Therefore, I abstain from animal products
It's very easy to use a system of logic to explain your moral philosophy. But you are correct in saying that there is no ultimate 'proof' of what is good. You have to ascribe a desire initially: mine just happens to be happiness (utilitarianism). It's convenient, as anything I desire will always have better outcomes than sadness.
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Originally Posted by brentbacardi
You do realize if we didn't kill the cows, they would then be alive to continue farting...
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We kill billions of cattle per year that have been specifically bred and raised to be used as food. There was perhaps 0.1% of the current livestock population 1,000 years ago - poor argument, as we raise billions of new animals every year purely to be eaten. Again, a poor argument when you've created the demand for the animal. Their population is entirely dependent on the fact that we demand that much livestock.
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Originally Posted by Mutt
Your choice in occupation causes direct and indirect harm to people, there's no denying that pornography hurts some people yet you choose to make your living selling porn.
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If you could give me a little more information as to how my work has produced harm, I could give you an argument as to how I would justify it. That, or resign instantly from my position as warlord chief esquire of X Copywriters.