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Originally Posted by bhutocracy
A pretty good argument for eating meat is that it's basically proven vegans etc in practice can't sustain B12 levels. There is just too much "doing it wrong".
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Good argument, if only this didn't exist:
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Originally Posted by bhutocracy
There isn't a lot of pain involved in free range animals being humanely slaughtered. Fuck we kill our animals better than we kill our humans. Granny Baggins has to die slowly in pain over 6 months from bowel cancer but billy the goat gets a bolt through the brain. Go billy.
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Free range is better than factory farmed, yes. I agree.
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Originally Posted by bhutocracy
I don't really see any ethical issues with food production so long as the animals are free range, grass (or otherwise) fed and humanely killed, they're generally winning over their wild counterparts and outperforming in a context of most other species getting nearer and nearer extinction.
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There is a good amount of evidence to suggest that when an animal is in a line of 50 others to be slaughtered, they understand that they're next. You have to understand that when animals are produced as part of a business venture, they are killed in the most efficient way possible. Lowered costs are the ultimate goal: the welfare of the animal isn't always something they care for.
Another strong argument is simply the fact that the food demands we'll experience in the coming 100 years will require so much land for the production of animals. It requires 10 pounds of feed to produce 1 pound of flesh: that isn't efficient, and it won't be sustainable.
Cows also fart, a lot. They contribute to global warming on a very noticeable level.
It's okay to say "I eat meat because I like the taste and I don't give a shit", but to try and give valid arguments and defend it with any other form of reason is just pointless. Veganism is pretty much impossible to argue against when defended correctly.
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Originally Posted by ManicaMark
A meal just isn't a meal without meat!!
Also, another argument to eat meat is, we humans have certain enzymes, acids and other digestive juices specifically there in our stomachs to break down animal fats, acids and proteins. That's it!! That is the only function they have.
Surely this speaks volumes in the 'eat meat' debate??
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We have systems in our body to help us fight off viruses and diseases: should we do our best to contract these as much as we can so that their purpose isn't wasted? Also, merely because we have eaten meat as part of our evolution does not mean that we should continue to do so. This is known as the
naturalistic fallacy. Because it is natural does not mean that it is good. For instance - cancer is pretty natural, but quite unpleasant. Man made vaccines on the other hand? Wonderful things.