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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks
But it's a corrupted analogy. It's applying the same moral on ALL creatures/things/objects, etc... and giving all creatures/things/objects the same value.
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Not quite. I can see no logical issue with it being spectrumized based on a level of sentience (or, more importantly, ability to feel pain). For example, bacteria has no concept of pain, so you can use cleaning products just fine. A vegan might argue that torturing an ant is probably better than a dog.
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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks
Like there is some universal objective moral when in fact all moral is subjective.
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Sure. But moral subjectivism doesn't mean that there aren't good arguments for why you should follow one set of practices in life. Also, I'd probably find some VERY inconsistent logic with anyone's framework of morality if they consume animal products. Most people don't think about it, because it's an inconvenient fact about the nature of living: things feel pain, but they're too lazy to change.
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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks
... and since all moral is subjective: as long as it's within the law people should not have to feel quilty about eating meat if they don't feel quilty about it. 
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The legal system is
far from being a good guidence of morality. I'd suggest you avoid that line of argument - it's terrible, and you won't get anywhere with it.
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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks
In some cultures you become a man as soon as you are able to hunt and kill an animal to provide for your tribe...
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Firstly: are you in a tribe that desperately needs food? Vegans would probably have less of an issue with this type of consumption of animal products. Mainly because hunting requires you killing an animal that has been out in the wild and hasn't been kept in a cage, force fed food or injected with various hormones to increase its growth. These are incredibly niche cultures and account for an insignificant amount of the current consumption of meat. Most people go to a store, see the meat packaged, pick it up, hand over cash and go home - I don't remember the last time I saw a Zulu at Walmart.