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Old 09-25-2013, 11:48 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by mikesouth View Post
In all honesty this has little to do with Obama save for hime being the driving force. The affordable healthcare act was written by the insurance lobby.

Now if you consider that the USA is the last real market left for health insurance it becomes pretty obvious tha the insurance companies had to act quickly, had we gone to Universal care type system Kaiser, United Health Care, Cygna, Blue Croos Blue Shield etc all bite the dirt.

In terms of forcing people to buy health insurance the argument is it will cost the average person less because his/her tax dollars arent paying for healthcare for people that have no insurance but go to the ER anytime they need a doctor or even expensive healthcare that they will never pay for.

I dont yet know if I am a fan of this new act or not but I do know that it is a step in the right direction. If quality health care is a right as s many people seem to think then it falls on the government to pay for it, and the government has no money except for what it takes from its citizens by force.

I think tha this will be the thing that defines Obamas Presidency more than anything else when the history books are written be it bad or good it will be his legacy, even more than being the first Black President.

Time will tell
I agree. When people say it is socialized healthcare that is just wrong. It is more like socialized health insurance.

Like you say, this will define Obama's presidency. 10-15 years from now if the healthcare situation in the US has improved, regardless of whether it is from this or something that comes later, he will be seen as the guy who got the ball rolling.

If it crashes and burns and 10-15 years from now the healthcare situation is in shambles he will be the one that is blamed.

I think eventually we will end up with a single payer system similar to what Canada and many other countries have. This is just the first the step.
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