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Old 09-09-2013, 08:18 PM  
Pseudonymous
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Im not even sure what this debate/thread is about, its pretty messy but if its about what the actual cost to shoot is. Its no secret the producers in this industry do things at a higher cost than whats needed. They've been doing this since a time when things were better, they've built careers and accumulated bills that are reflective of what they once made. This is why they are still slightly above the line. Who cares if they charge higher, if you want their quality, it still makes sense to pay... if you cannot afford it, go with somebody else. There are many options IMO

If you truly want to do things at a lower than average rate, think outside the box, talk to people, do some networking. When you goto the first people you think of, its obvious they are going to be at a rate higher than what you can get it at, youre not the only one who thinks of them first

As far as budgets and costs go, you give somebody a budget, they'll find a way to spend to that budget. And you give that person that budget for quite sometime, they'll be pretty sure thats what it costs, you force a budget change on them and you watch them change their business model pretty quick and readjust accordingly. Most have simply not needed to or been asked to by somebody who controls the situation

Also if you expect a producer to come in here and do anything but defend the costs, well thats naive. Far too many biased opinions. Most of their current/future employers lurk this forum
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