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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock
So you can shoot the 2 cinematic style solo scenes with 2 5D cameras a makeup artist and also do all the post production and color grading for the cost of the model LOL! Dont forget the agency fee also.
Where does the $400 for 4 hours of location $150 for makeup artist and $250 for another DSLR shooter that owns his own camera come from???? Do you have a 4 million dollar house that you can shoot at for free each time with a different location? I seriously doubt it man the model wouldn't take less than $500 for a solo shoot she shoots alot of BG scenes. Some top models wont even shoot solos as its not worth it to them or they would rather get fucked.
And FYI John shoots only a handful of times a year now. Porn is his part time gig. 
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What are you talking about, why are you asking for the costs, I mentioned them in my response to you. What I find models for and what i pay for locations. Lets say 300 for model + 250 for location.
I didn't know what YOU pay for models but i said, even if i went that route instead of finding them without the agency, it still wouldn't get to thousands.
So lets add in 500 for the model instead finding my own (instead of 300), that brings it to 700 total for the day. How much is the agency fee, lets see what that brings it to? Still dont think 3000 is overpaying?
And why are you asking about a 4 million dollar house?
Im suggesting what I do my shoots for, i do not need a 4 million dollar house to create high quality content, i've shot at 1 million dollar houses that i get for apparently a fraction, if youre spending thousands in a day for a couple solo scenes
I have shot 400 photo sets and a few hundred videos in the past couple years, im well aware of the costs. The costs dont change because i decide to do cinematic style.
Maybe try renting cheaper places out of the most expensive areas? I learned hair and makeup, i have only needed to do it with one girl because most know how to do their own hair, i dont think you need the 80s curls and waves like dean/twistys/vintage playboy has in all their content (even if i didn't, thats still only 150)
To be honest, im not sure how people spend what they do on shoots but i definitely think it has to do with them spending to the budget given.
So lets say i even wanted to splurge and get a MUA/Hair Stylist which i dont think is always needed, and went the route of an agency, which i dont think is always needed, 850. They pay me 3000?
I think any photographer who thinks thousands isn't over payment is trying to make up for the lack of work
And actually porn isn't johns part time gig, he makes all his money from this industry. He was just smart enough to team up with somebody so he could see money from this without doing much work so whenever he shoots, its bonus money, hes got partnerships in many paysites as you know.
My point was that he made it so that a job made sense for him, as it was extra money. Thats being business savvy. When you rely on cheap jobs as youre only source of revenue, sure. But when theyr extra, they start to look like they arent necessarily underpaying jobs