Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

Theyre paying 3k? I could shoot solo scenes of that quality for 500 bucks/day. All costs in (not including my personal taxes). Though I guess if youre so limited in your ability to find models yourself, and only goign through agencies, i can see you having to pay agency rates for a solo model but it shouldn't be much more than what i mentioned.. and even if it is, it surely wouldn't get you close to 'thousands'

As somebody who owns a company and produces, I know the costs and anybody paying thousands a day for anything is overpaying.

I travel from Vancouver down to California for all my shoots, i rent very nice homes and i if i wanted, i could pay fresh new models a few hundred for a days work and 200-300 for a location.

Currently pay them 500 a day because i can and the profit margin on a solo site is higher than any other projects in the industry. So I do not currently pinch pennies. I would feel more inclined if i was shooting a multi model site where I dont have to use the same model again. I pay 500 in order to keep them interested for a while.

It would have to take some real marketing geniuses to pay 3000 for a couple softcore scenes for a new site in 2013 and make sense of that for long term. I suspect GammaE will realize that doesn't make sense soon enough or bail on the project. I notice that site doesn't have much for traffic, has it even launched yet?

And 210 after taxes, is 65k a year job. Which isn't all that shabby for some. Especially since many people enjoy it. But do you not think 65k a year would be a great income if it was ontop of other revenue sources? Starts to become more appealing. You have to be business savvy as well.

You were the only photographer I have spoken to lately this year that has turned down the idea of a partnership based around your content which you would have received 50% of everything the paysite made, on top of 100 percent for the first few months (when it has its biggest months)

Which would have easily been balanced on top of a full time job. That would have been another 5-10k a month minimum...

When youre ONLY depending on those cheap jobs, maybe it seems less appealing, is all im saying

John Emslie shoots girls for Hustler/Met-Art, etc and while its starting to become not as worth it, he makes it worth it by bringing in the models for them and then entertains the idea of sites. All of a sudden, these gigs make sense, financially.