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Old 08-28-2013, 10:52 PM  
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Originally Posted by adultmobile View Post
Really you all can not believe an affiliate sent a customer who chargebacked all? Perhaps you guys never ran a cam site yourselves, but chargebacks do happen. Especially who spend bigger, is more likely doing so because he knows this is not his money (carder), or it was his money but he will do "friendly fraud" later, telliing to bank: "it was not me".

Also, use logics: let's say as a cam program I want to shave and scam affiliates. Really I am an evil one. I would not show to affiliates +$1000 sales, then after, subtract a -$500 "chargeback". I would simply shave on the sales, by not adding these $500 in first place, so the affiliate just seen a +$500 with no any chargebacks. And he would not write posts in GFY.

A last word about affiliates who complain there are too few cam sites so they can do all they want: this is the same the models say, that there's few cam sites so they pay low and shave etc. etc.; but then, when a new cam site is launched... each one would increase competition and make better conditions for affiliates and models... the affiliates and cam girls do not join it; but instead wait 6-12 months to see if it collapses or not - they wait the site to become bigger, before to consider it. And cam sites obviously collapses, as no any support from models and affiliates

So, affiliates and models who just join and support the same 5 old cam sites, should really not say any word about how is bad there are so few cam sites who "abuse" them from oligopoly - since it is affiliates and cam girls who created and keep up such monopoly/oligopoly. The same goes for lots of other sites/products, where everyone complaints on the top 5 providers, still they all just buy from there, and ignore new ones.


Wordup. Let me add that our fraud department does a wonderful job at spotting fraud and believe me, it is sometimes the affiliates, it is often the customers who are the scammers. You all know the deal; hubby is up late, decides to buy a few tokens and becomes enamored with a certain model, faps himself silly, then feels guilty that the credit card has been charged all this money and his wife is going to be pissed. He ends up calling the CC company and says the charges were unauthorized or something similar.
C'mon guys! It's the same old story!

I recently told one of my bigger affiliates (who is probably reading this) to pause because his account was flagged for fraud (25 chargebacks). He did, without argument. Meanwhile, I go to the fraud girls and have them investigate. They informed me that all 25 of those chargebacks was due to ONE user and advised me to unpause the affiliate. This has happened several times, due to the customer's abuse of chargebacks.
Not all cams sponsors are evil. As mentioned above, it is a helluva job, running a cam site.


Some of you cats are off the hook. Goddamn.
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