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Originally Posted by TheSquealer
You know absolutely nothing of what happened or what he was doing in his room... and OBVIOUSLY he was a fucking threat because he was running around threatening people according to staff with a "butcher knife" and other objects. You think police live at the nursing home???? Or do you think someone called the police because there was a serious problem that they couldn't handle? The article says they were in riot gear. Why do you think that was? Riot Fashion week at the Old Folks Home where the police just happened to be anyway?
And although I understand a life of union membership has made you and the rest of the world in your eyes nothing but perpetual victims being perpetually abused and exploited, the simple fact is you know nothing about what happened. Police aren't exactly trained to leave a guy alone in a room that has been threatening the lives of others. If you had all the facts that made it out to be that the guy who was shot was trying to murder everyone and had a hostage, you still wouldn't care because in your unionized mind, he can only be a victim of The Man.
Furthermore, you know nothing of the circumstances of which they shot him with a non lethal round. It might have been to stop him from stabbing himself in the throat. There was clearly a lot going on that you know nothing about.
I love that you fucking idiots reasoned that the only obvious explanation is that police showed up to murder a 95 year old guy in front of the staff... and that there really are no other plausible explanations.
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I know its hard but read and learn. He had no knife. Also unionized? when they are 7 percent of the work force is weak at best. need a new talking point.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...t-police-taser
from the article
And after doing some digging, I found there are two versions of events: The police version, and a new picture that raises questions of whether John Wrana was killed unnecessarily.
The Park Forest police version is that on the night of July 26, John Wrana, a resident of the Victory Centre senior living facility, threatened staff and paramedics with a 2-foot-long metal shoehorn and a metal cane. The police statement neglects to mention that the old man also used a walker, at least according to photographs supplied by Grapsas.
"Attempts were made verbally to have the resident comply with demands to drop the articles, to no avail," the police statement reads. "The resident then armed himself with a 12-inch butcher type kitchen knife."
But lawyer Grapsas says that Wrana's family never saw a knife in his room and that staff also told him Wrana didn't have such a knife.
"So where did the knife come from?" Grapsas asked.
The police statement leaves the impression that the staff was under threat, leaving police with no choice other than to shoot him.
But according to Maria Oliva, an executive with Pathway Senior Living, the staff was kept out of the room after police arrived. So there was no imminent threat to staff.
"The staff was not inside once the police were on the scene," Oliva told us. "At different times the staff were in there, but not when they were called. They (the police) were in charge at that point."
Police said there had been threats made against the staff. But Grapsas said he was told that staff begged to be allowed to try to calm down the old man.
"If there were threats to the staff, why did the staff want to intervene and say, 'Let us handle this; we'll get him calmed down'?" he asked.