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adultmobile · 07-20-2013, 10:33 AM

So the biggest trend I see while running a program, it is new affiliates contacting in icq/skype to ask generic things, all of which written in their accounts page, or even in the register form, for example this 5 minutes ago:

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newaffiliate: thanks for adding me....
newaffiliate: I registered on the tubecamgirl.com as affiliate but I don't understand whats suppose to be done
newaffiliate: could you please brief me...

tubecamsupp: there is an instructions page. in menu you see it?

newaffiliate: No

tubecamsupp: look "instructions"

newaffiliate: right I see it
newaffiliate: thanks, I now get it.
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This one was easy, but some start to ask a number of things (all of which was written in the register form, plus repeated inside the logged-in page), such as: what your payment methods? How much you pay for PPS? How much you pay per free join? What countries are good for free join?

Actually, I repeated these info in every page, from register to logged-in, I was thinking to even open popunders with such an info, but then I sort of figured, by interviewing a few of these guys, that they really just need friends, and/or want to see if anyone is actually replying the support, before to start sending traffic. The latter it is understandable: they fear the program is dead or unfriendly, then they contact them, and if there is a reply, they passed the "is alive" test. Rarely these guys send much traffic really anyway.

I also noticed another trend: whoever contacts to make very smart questions, it is most of the times a black hat fraudster and carder. They appear to have read all instructions, made some tests, and ask very fine details, basically trying to get to know how the system does fraud check. Most of the times, when these guys start to send signups, they made these themselves. Some are semi-smart as they make a real adult site or blog with links to our site, put this in http referer (so if you check it seems coming from a legit source), send thousands of trash hits which make no real signups (possibly a redirect from skimmed), then they go making the signups themselves in the mix, so signup ratio is not too good, http referer seems a real site, but they fail other things (which I do not explain here of course). When I go questioning the guy in his icq/skype, he vanishes, except very rare times they reply a time or two trying to understand how I found it was a fraud.

Statistically, those affiliates who send the most and best traffic with signups, are contacting not before to start sending traffic, but after made the first $100's. They will do very few medium-level questions, mostly related to pay options or delays.
So statistically affiliates contacting before to start sending the first hit, or those asking too much complicated stuff, are either waste of time or malicious.

Any thoughts?

07-20-2013, 10:33 AM
adultmobile No, I am not banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ChatGF.com Posts: 5,345	affiliates contacting in icq/skype without read instructions, so common So the biggest trend I see while running a program, it is new affiliates contacting in icq/skype to ask generic things, all of which written in their accounts page, or even in the register form, for example this 5 minutes ago: -------- newaffiliate: thanks for adding me.... newaffiliate: I registered on the tubecamgirl.com as affiliate but I don't understand whats suppose to be done newaffiliate: could you please brief me... tubecamsupp: there is an instructions page. in menu you see it? newaffiliate: No tubecamsupp: look "instructions" newaffiliate: right I see it newaffiliate: thanks, I now get it. -------- This one was easy, but some start to ask a number of things (all of which was written in the register form, plus repeated inside the logged-in page), such as: what your payment methods? How much you pay for PPS? How much you pay per free join? What countries are good for free join? Actually, I repeated these info in every page, from register to logged-in, I was thinking to even open popunders with such an info, but then I sort of figured, by interviewing a few of these guys, that they really just need friends, and/or want to see if anyone is actually replying the support, before to start sending traffic. The latter it is understandable: they fear the program is dead or unfriendly, then they contact them, and if there is a reply, they passed the "is alive" test. Rarely these guys send much traffic really anyway. I also noticed another trend: whoever contacts to make very smart questions, it is most of the times a black hat fraudster and carder. They appear to have read all instructions, made some tests, and ask very fine details, basically trying to get to know how the system does fraud check. Most of the times, when these guys start to send signups, they made these themselves. Some are semi-smart as they make a real adult site or blog with links to our site, put this in http referer (so if you check it seems coming from a legit source), send thousands of trash hits which make no real signups (possibly a redirect from skimmed), then they go making the signups themselves in the mix, so signup ratio is not too good, http referer seems a real site, but they fail other things (which I do not explain here of course). When I go questioning the guy in his icq/skype, he vanishes, except very rare times they reply a time or two trying to understand how I found it was a fraud. Statistically, those affiliates who send the most and best traffic with signups, are contacting not before to start sending traffic, but after made the first $100's. They will do very few medium-level questions, mostly related to pay options or delays. So statistically affiliates contacting before to start sending the first hit, or those asking too much complicated stuff, are either waste of time or malicious. Any thoughts? __________________ TubeCamGirl.com