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Old 07-17-2013, 07:01 PM  
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Thank you! I try to spread knowledge that will help affiliates make more money or help affiliates to better understand how things work, because (though we wish it were) everything in this game is not simply black & white.



I always appreciate your bluntness! So, please enlighten me! What IS going on? With all due respect, it always seems like you are trolling me in my DG threads. More often than not, you are in our threads, speaking for some mystery affiliate. You've heard this and people say that. As an address to heresy, I happily invite you to try our programs for yourself. I'll give you the absolute top payout, any landing pages or promo materials (if we don't have it, I'll have it built for you) and pixel placement for optimum tracking. If you find any of these accusations to be true, I will be in your thread, eating my hat. What is really funny, the people I do see badmouthing DG usually are those who sent 70 clicks in bot or incent traffic and still expect to get paid, even after breaking several rules in our terms. But, we take much of this on the chin. Few people know this.

There is a great difficulty in running 2 different pay per lead programs. We strive to be fair and just, while getting more scammers and rule-breakers than true, hardworking, honest affiliates. We encourage our affiliates to contact us for anything they need or do not need/want in their campaigns. We are very hands-on and ENCOURAGE people to reach out to us and ask for modifications. Everyone starts with the same basic setup, when they sign up for our program. That same setup cannot possibly work for every webmaster!

If you can, please tell me what is the total difficulty in our program? What are the rough spots we need to iron out in order to be a reputable company, in your eyes? Please don't take this as sarcasm. I would really love to know everything you think is wrong with DG, IN DETAIL. I'm asking because you are the most outspoken. You do not have to answer publicly, if you do not want. My email is below.

Thank you for your help! And I mean what I said about giving you the top tier payout!



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Tofu,

When I first hit reply the thread wasn't a sticky (now it's not again but it was earlier). I never would have posted that then if I saw it was a sticky.

I'm not near as bad as I think you see me. In fact I can't find the message after checking quickly but I remember complimenting you guys once publicly here because at the time you converted well for me. One of you -- maybe it was Javis even acknowledged it and stated that you appreciated the compliment because "I usually speak my mind". Well that goes both ways. If it didn't then that wouldn't be true would it?

I've given you guys constructive criticism in the past and was respectful about it:

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Originally Posted by Jayvis
We are also interested in bringing back old affiliates that promoted us months ago and then stopped for whatever reason...
12-28-2010

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Originally Posted by singupdamnit
Affiliates usually stop promoting a program for good reason. The best way to keep receiving traffic from affiliates over the long term is to always run an honest high converting program for all of your affiliates. The whales may be nice for the short term but they can be easily enticed to go elsewhere and often do. Or perhaps become too expensive to keep.

Affiliate 1- $10,000 a month * 6 months = $60,000
Affiliate 2- $10,000 a year * 10 years = $100,000

Which affiliate really was a better one to have? Now add 100 - 1000 more affiliate #2's (which are far easier to find than Affiliate #1) and what do you get? Sometimes it seems as if some programs don't understand basic business principles. It pays to respect all of your affiliates at all times. FWIW, there's one program I promoted for 12 years. They never gave me any reason until recently not to promote them.
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17804827&postcount=21

I think where we really went wrong is after I heard about this popunder and I mention that in my other message above too.

11-17-2012

"Anybody want to see stats from one of my top dating affiliates? [Pic] " By Jayvis

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit
Get rid of the console people were talking about a few weeks ago. It's hard to take a program seriously when they pop consoles to other products which they do not pay on. If you want to do that start paying per impression or unique. Otherwise it's hard to trust any of your programs or anything which you say. Just the way it is.
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19318228&postcount=21

"datinggold links has popups now??"
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1087427

There is more I could say but the above should be enough for now. I'll only say a little more. I think you should see what I said here on 10-28-2010 and your company should take it to heart. It's up to you guys how you want to do business but it's just a suggestion.

The higher payout doesn't mean anything to me at all. Do you still have the popunder? If so get rid of it on your affiliate traffic. That would mean a lot more to me. Then I'll wait a couple months and see what others are saying about you and I might give you a shot again.
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