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Old 07-11-2013, 07:48 PM  
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer View Post

I dont know really how police investigators do this. What always surprises me is seeing a witnesses account torn apart, particularly in a high stress event.

Here is something I deal with 5 days a week usually. 4 guys in a racquetball court. One guy serves. There is an intense volley for 10-20 seconds. The ball dies. Everyone stops. Everyone then looks at each other.... wondering.... who served, what the score is, who got the point etc. Basically, everyone's short term memory was wiped out completely to the point that 4 grown, professional adults have a hard time reconstructing what happened only 40 seconds before. Basically, your brain is focused on a fight or flight response and "what happened" isn't an important detail. In a neurological sense, its very similar to date rape drugs, I believe.

This is also true of fighting. Anyone that's done any amount of fighting knows very well that you will have almost no meaningful recollection of what happened apart from whatever the initial event is. Then if you start asking people around, you get conflicting stories. In that time, your brain is slowly remembering bits and pieces and filling in the rest with imagined content as your brain does. What is left in the end is a reconstruction of a reconstruction of a reconstruction of a reconstruction of a poorly recalled event.

Ultimately a memory is usually little more than the lie you've been telling yourself and it continues to evolve and change with time.

Anyone in intelligence will tell you right away as well that human intelligence is the most unreliable form of intelligence.

I don't know to what extent investigators rely on the account of the person in the event itself. Zimmerman did 3 interviews and the purpose of that is to keep getting more details as they are recalled before the whole memory is corrupted. A comment was made during the trial that his statement went from 4 pages, to 20, to 50.

I don't really know what the answer is to this in the legal system. I am just often blown away when someone is using the statements of a women that just shot her husband in self defense after being beaten and raped as evidence against her or pointing out inconsistencies when its literally impossible for the brain to recall anything from such an event with any real and accurate detail, and even when trauma induced amnesia directly following the event is very common and normal. It's normal in a fist fight. Its perfectly normal in 30 seconds of racquetball for 4 people in the 800 sq ft room to have no clue what just happened.
I'm sorry, who in your racquetball 4-some was shot in the chest and killed?

I've heard of bloody and broken noses on the racquetball court (usually accidental), but not shootings. Thug life? Details of something like that, I feel like I would recall.

I used to spar a little when I was younger (my Dad was a serious boxer), and I could recall my rounds blow by blow, even when I got my ass kicked (although the few times I momentarily blacked out were pretty fuzzy from when the lights went out until I woke up on my back with lights in my face). What I didn't remember, my Dad did.

Meanwhile, back at the trial:





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