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Originally Posted by Rochard
He shot and killed the kid. His wounds were not life threatening. He did not even need to see a doctor.
What more proof do you need?
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His wounds do not have to be life threatening. Thats not what self defense is. Thats just your own conjecture and misguided specualation as to its relevance and attempting to add it as a relevant detail, which its not as far as the law is concerned.
His wounds are not relevant other than it shows there was an altercation and he was on the losing end of it and had cause to believe he was facing grave bodily harm.
ALL THAT MATTERS is what was going on in HIS MIND, when he pulled out the pistol and pulled the trigger.
YOU are the only one blathering on about his wounds. They are largely irrelevant. Furthermore, 8 witnesses have testified Zimmerman was screaming for help. 1 eye witness testified that Martin was on top of him beating the shit out of him
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY...
Zimmermans position is that Martin saw the gun, they both went for it and Zimmerman beat him to it and shot Martin.
Now... Here is why that is most important. YOU DON"T FUCKING KNOW IF THAT HAPPENED OR NOT. THE PROSECUTION DOESN'T KNOW. NO ONE KNOWS and evidence to that fact is circumstantial.
The prosecution has to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt and at every step, there is literally NOTHING BUT DOUBT.
For you to pronounce someone guilty without being able to point to a single fact argued in court is beyond absurd and your waffling all over the place and irrational remarks is why so many think you can't be possibly be serious.
YOU BELIEVE he's guilty of second degree murder. The jury might agree, they might not. HOWEVER, the evidence does not support that. I have yet to hear any journalist in any major news network talking about how the Prosecution is just crushing it. They aren't. They are a mess and their case just isn't there. There wasn't case which is why he wasn't initially charged to begin with.
A kid getting shot does not mean it wasn't self defense. A kid getting shot (a kid bigger and in better shape than Zimmerman does not mean Zimmerman didn't have reason to believe he faced grave bodily harm as that kid was on top of him, pounding into him as he tried to defend himself before he lost steam and lost consciousness.
FURTHERMORE...he can't throw a punch? Let me help you from the experience of years of boxing, kickboxing and martial arts. You can't effectively punch from your back, on the ground. One would think that's common sense... but I just wanted to clarify since you seem to be so thick. Thats the whole point of passing the guard position, getting past the defenders legs and going into "ground and pound" mode as the eye witness testified Martin did. BECAUSE ZIMMERMAN CAN'T DEFEND HIMSELF IN THAT POSITION. Do you get that??? Do you sincerely not understand that if someone comes up to you, hits you with a strong enough blow to break your nose and drop you... that 1) you are highly unlikely to have the mental faculties to defend yourself... much less go on offense and 2) YOU CAN'T PUNCH FROM YOUR BACK.
You have not demonstrated ANYTHING to refute any of the claims of the defense or Zimmerman's story. You just keep making vague, emotional pleas and insisting that because Martin is dead, its murder, therefore Zimmerman is a murderer.
Thank fuck you're not in law enforcement or the military.
And for the record, I sincerely dont give a shit about Treyvon Martin, his death or whether or not George Zimmerman gets shanked in his cell tonight. No one does. People pretend to care but the simple horrible truth about everyone is that you don't care about either of them. There were 350 or so kids murdered in Detroit alone last year. Does anyone know a name? A face? Of course not. The truth is that if you say you care about Treyvon Martin, you are full of shit. Otherwise, feel free to tell me about the scholorship fund you set up in his name... or the 1000s of dollars you donated to his family, or about your lobbying efforts for new legislation... i'm all ears.
No one is more full of shit in this world, than people who claim they care.