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Old 07-01-2013, 02:21 PM  
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Originally Posted by vdbucks View Post
And yet you continue to ignore the testimony as well. You assume Martin knew he was armed from the get-go, and base the rest of your argument around that. I countered that by asking who would walk up and start a fight with someone that they know is armed, and instead of realizing the logic and probability of my counter, you proceeded to talk about my balls. In real debates, we call personal attacks made as a last resort to win said debate, losing.

And who is to say that the incident didn't happen exactly as GZ said it did; that he only drew his weapon and fired because Martin saw it and threatened his life? You certainly cannot prove that this isn't what happened, nor can anyone else prove that it is what happened. And yet, you continue your entire argument and prejudice around nothing but speculation, conjecture and what you personally want to believe happened.
I do not ignore any testimony. I am not watching the case on a daily basis - I don't have the kind of free time Baddog has - and the only testimony I've heard about this is that George Zimmerman's father said Martin saw the gun. I believe I also questioned if Martin saw the gun - was it just "in Zimmerman's waistband" or was it covered by a jacket (It was raining).

You seem focused on this and I'm not sure why; It doesn't matter. If Martin saw the gun or not is pointless; Martin felt threatened enough to run from a man who was obviously following him. Martin felt threatened enough to run all the way back to the only point of safety he knew in the area. Zimmerman followed him all the way.

Zimmerman says he was walking back to his truck, but I haven't heard or seen or read any witness that supports this. Zimmerman claims his head was being bashed into the concrete pavement (yet only has two minor cuts on the back of his head), and again i haven't heard or seen or read any witness statement that supports this.

I think Martin punched him in the face, and then Zimmerman panicked and shot him. If you think otherwise, great - tell me what you think.
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