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Originally Posted by madm1k3
NO you clearly do have an opinion.
I stated Zimmerman ignored the 911 operator and you said I was twisting facts. You believe "Zimmermans version is he returned back to his car and he forgot what street he was on so he got back out to find a street sign, you believe that bullshit?" I don't, sounds pretty fucking made up. But then again so does half the shit in the prosecutor's argument.
But it doesn't matter what I think, or anyone besides the Jury thinks. If they believe Zimmerman started the confrontation by following Martin... he's guilty. If the jury believes the confrontation was started by Martin... he's innocent
This case is interesting to me not because of race but because of the definition of confrontation. If someone is following you and you confront them are you then the aggressor? Or is the act of following someone enough to consider the confrontation already started.
but I'm just a moron
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No, I do not have an opinion. I am looking at the evidence, or rather, the lack of evidence. I don't think he is innocent or guilty because the entire case is circumstantial at best. It could have been this, could have been that, or could have been something else.
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Originally Posted by kane
This is why ultimately the case will come down to Zimmerman's believably. When you look at the map of where events took place it is clear that Zimmerman was a decent distance away from his car. There is nothing illegal about that.
It looks like he followed Martin. Again, nothing illegal. The big question is how the fight started. Zimmerman is claiming that Martin attacked him and he was just defending himself. If the jury believes him he will go free. The prosecution is saying that Zimmerman started the fight and Martin was defending himself. If the jury believes that Zimmerman goes to jail.
Since Martin isn't here to testify and, as far as I know, there were no witnesses that saw how the fight started, the case really boils down to how believable Zimmerman is.
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Well, his believability and how the prosecution presents their case. So far, the prosecution is doing a shitty job as far as I can tell.
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Originally Posted by tonyparra
This case isnt about race, whether or not Martin was a good kid or Zimmerman was racist.
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This case is completely about race... The media has spun it as "big bad racist whitey killed poor, helpless, innocent blackey". If the media hadn't spun this into a big bad racial hate crime then, with the gross lack of evidence, the worst they would have tried to get him for is involuntary manslaughter.
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Originally Posted by tonyparra
If someone follows you in their car, gets out and follows and provokes a fight with you, you get the upper hand so then he shoots you, if you survive you will say "Its cool cus I deserved it."
Your logic makes no sense.
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Once again, you are twisting facts, or the lack thereof, with your opinion. You have absolutely no evidence or proof that Zimmerman did anything whatsoever to provoke an altercation; just like Zimmerman has absolutely no proof that Martin did. The burden of proof however is on the DA, and he's been doing a real shitty job of it so far.