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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN
Anything a person chooses to do is a choice.
Even if there are genes that predispose certain traits in humans, things like wanting some dope or alcohol can be overcome by the mind. Weakness in any form can be overcome by training.
You will never convince me that something someone willingly chooses to do is a disease.
Of course once a person is addicted to something it does have very real physical aspects to overcome as well as the mental.
I personally chose to never do too much of anything or for too long so I'd never have to fight to quit. Personal choice for me.
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Well that bolded part is the point, no? Obviously you always have a 100% clear choice while not an addict, but like the boiling frog analogy, once you cross that invisible line, or end up on the other colour of the gradient, that rational choice isn't there any longer. It's only once you get clean that your rational mind & thought processes return.
That's how it was for me anyway, obviously I can't speak for anyone else. Sitting here clear-headed, sober, and rational, just like I was before alcoholism got a grip on me, I'm baffled as to how I 'let myself' get in that situation. It makes *zero* sense, none whatsoever.
I really do understand how someone who has never been an addict can't comprehend that it's most definitely an illness, both mental & physical (in my case, anyway). What does piss me off is the dismissiveness of it by those who have never experienced it. Weakness my ass, I spent 20 years trying to control my drinking, any other cunt would have given up trying to control it years ago - carrying on fighting it is the total opposite of weakness. And that's without even getting into how it isn't a case of whether a person is being weak-willed or not, in the first place.