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Originally Posted by Far-L
What are you talking about?
Even if you want to claim I am just a program owner and not an affiliate, which is not the case at all since we promote programs extensively, you still are assuming a lot to say I don't understand the affiliate perspective. Even program owners still better be very aware of what it is like from the affiliate perspective or else they really shouldn't be using affiliates to market with.
We aren't talking about affiliates getting payed what is earned and deserved. We are talking about sponsors faking sales to affiliates to get them to promote more. I didn't disagree about "being an affiliate" at all. I questioned how you could call it ethical if a program falsely adds sales, for the same reasons you would call it unethical if they withheld legit sales.
Perhaps you lack the business acumen or the ethical integrity to grasp where I am coming from. If a program is "adding sales" to make your ratios look better then they are deceiving you plain and simple. You are trying to say "oh, but the affiliate should get it because deleted cookies", or whatever, but that doesn't take into account how and why a sponsor would do that.
You just basically are ok with it if it works to your benefit. Basically you just tipped your hand. You don't mind if the dealer passes you the ace up his sleeve as long as you get a cut of the pot.
So you can back peddle and try to belittle me all you want but now we know what's up with how you like business to be conducted.
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I'm not going to take over Mr. Peabody's thread so this is it from me. But in a nutshell very few affiliates are going to be upset about about a sponsor seeing they have a 1:5000 ratio and deciding to credit them a sale or two as a sort of "comp". It's mainly an issue if it goes the other way where they shave.
Likewise no affiliate likes urls on sponsor content. It's branding for you, not us. We need the surfer to click the link in order to get credit unless we cookie stuff the affiliate code. Making it easier for the surfer to just type in the url hurts us. This is pretty much common sense here.
If you disagree we can always start a public (so we can check to see who is really primarily an affiliate) poll thread like "Affiliates: Do you prefer sponsors putting urls on affiliate promo content" or "Affiliates: do you have a problem with a sponsor giving you free money and sales with no catch?" and see what the results are. I think most affiliates know what the results will be already if it's a fairly worded poll.