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Originally Posted by signupdamnit
It's not an insult. You're a sponsor primarily and not an affiliate. You're basically spouting sponsor propaganda.
1. Urls on affiliate content is good for affiliates
2. Reverse shaving (crediting affiliates for sales they didn't get) is wrong.
3. Sponsors have to do the bad stuff (from an affiliate perspective) and take x% of sales they should receive otherwise it wouldn't be viable.
You don't seem to understand the affiliate perspective or you choose not to. Now you're clearly being the one who is insulting because I dare to disagree with you about affiliates when I'm primarily an affiliate and you are not. I'm telling you as it is. No affiliate likes urls on promo content. None. It doesn't help US. Some of us only TOLERATE it. And you don't HAVE to do that. Sponsors went for years without doing it.
An affiliate should absolutely credited for ALL revenue they send to your sites. That is the ideal. Saying "oh if I didn't get 20% of your traffic for free using the urls on the videos then I would not be able to pay you 50% revshare" is no excuse. It's bullshit. The affiliate sends the sales, pay them. No excuses. No bullshit. No tricks. No games. No whining.
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What are you talking about?
Even if you want to claim I am just a program owner and not an affiliate, which is not the case at all since we promote programs extensively, you still are assuming a lot to say I don't understand the affiliate perspective. Even program owners still better be very aware of what it is like from the affiliate perspective or else they really shouldn't be using affiliates to market with.
We aren't talking about affiliates getting payed what is earned and deserved. We are talking about sponsors faking sales to affiliates to get them to promote more. I didn't disagree about "being an affiliate" at all. I questioned how you could call it ethical if a program falsely adds sales, for the same reasons you would call it unethical if they withheld legit sales.
Perhaps you lack the business acumen or the ethical integrity to grasp where I am coming from. If a program is "adding sales" to make your ratios look better then they are deceiving you plain and simple. You are trying to say "oh, but the affiliate should get it because deleted cookies", or whatever, but that doesn't take into account how and why a sponsor would do that.
You just basically are ok with it if it works to your benefit. Basically you just tipped your hand. You don't mind if the dealer passes you the ace up his sleeve as long as you get a cut of the pot.
So you can back peddle and try to belittle me all you want but now we know what's up with how you like business to be conducted.