Originally Posted by adendreams

Me who is not an affiliate?... actually yes I am an affiliate. before I was an affiliate I worked for other affs and sponsors since the affiliate biz was invented, I'm old school since the webs infancy to be quite honest and yes I'm not claiming to state facts - no need for me to dig up a bunch of data to back-up my opinions here - but my theories are based on close working knowledge of this game for the last couple decades.

You say the topic isnt about placing blame but I see you doing just that constantly in these threads - you blame tubes and outside factors for your perceived (wrongly IMO) across the board decline of this business.

Blame really is the point isnt it? If we can ascribe the CAUSE of the "decline" (for some) then we can work toward a FIX can't we.

You say I'm telling people they are lazy and stupid...no - I happen to know many characters in person on this board - and many through in depth online relationships and I do know for a fact that many are a little apathetic and chasing their tail - I also know many who are bright and energetic and growing their biz and those are who I learn from and choose to align myself with.

I certainly didn't say things are better than ever, in fact I repeatedly said the exact opposite when I said it was a bubble back then. Who doesnt love living in a bubble making money hand over fist.

Your opinions about the constant steady drop in sales are not representative throughout all sectors of the aff game - some yes... but not all. And you may want to do a little more research before stating so boldly that piracy and tubes etc. are to blame.

Your thoughts about what a hardworking affiliate can expect to earn (35k?) sure come across doom and gloom..just remember that there are some in your audience here that make that in a week.