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Some affiliates, but that is their problem. Maybe they are pushing the wrong sponsors, or don't know their traffic, or simply don't know what they are doing. Or maybe that's just the way it is now. Whatever the case, deal with it and focus on where you can make money right now.
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Which is what the topic is about. But apparently the same sponsors and the same reps get upset when any
affiliate talks to other
affiliates and says anything other than "it's better than ever! keep dedicating your life to sending traffic to pay site sponsors!"
Look at some of these replies. It's just a circle jerk of people who aren't really affiliates telling others how it is and agreeing with each other. That's useless. What does an affiliate care what a sponsor or rep thinks?
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$5 Submissions made a great simple post the other day about if 20% of what you work on brings in the money, and 80% doesn't, then focus on that 20%. As simple as that is, that is the absolute truth. I'm sure there is something that you're doing online that is working and giving you better results, focus on those things, or that one single site. Find one strength and build on that. Scale that one strength. Then do it again.
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Agree.
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Program owners are affiliates too ya know. While I don't live or die by my affiliate sales, with the exception of cams, my ratios are decent enough to most sites.
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It's different. If you understood you would not have entered the topic and spoke in the way you did. You don't understand what it is to mostly be a pay site affiliate in 2013 because you aren't one and that doesn't apply to you. You don't "live and die by your affiliate sites" as you said. Your personal affiliate sales are a bonus for you. This topic was never meant for you.
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Oh, I understand it. I am a site owner and an affiliate. I understand it perfectly. It's harder to make sales today than it was 13 years ago and the numbers are worse for many people. OK, now we know that, so lets move on and focus on where we can make sales today. Pandora's box is open. I'd love for it to shut but it's not going to.
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That's what the topic is about. But some people seem to get really upset when someone points it out in a way without sugar coating or blaming the affiliate for it.
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There is money to be made all over the internet. Get in where you fit in and go make it. If your numbers stink in one area and you can't figure out how to fix it, do something else. If you're not OK with having to make 200,000 page views to make a sale, then you had better do something about it, and fast.
Yes, numbers are a lot different today than they were in 1999, but what did you expect? The entire world has changed in the past decade, did you think the porn business and stats wouldn't?
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Yes we agree. But yet for some reason you felt the need to give me a lecture after telling me I am promoting the wrong sites, my expectations are too high, living in the past, and on and on. When in the end we agreed the whole time on what really matters minus the other bullshit. I guess you just wanted to bitch at me? I don't know. You tell me.
To be point blank I think a lot of you are just assholes. Not necessarily you DWB but a few of the others who have replied. You're not primarily affiliates and you know it. Many were never affiliates. Yet you can't resist the opportunity to act like an ass and make snide comments here and there. I've seen it happen more and more over the years and it's now to the point where a thread like this which is clearly meant for affiliates gets filled with 80% of the replies being from smart ass reps and sponsors making snide remarks and generalities.