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Originally Posted by signupdamnit
Yes there are people still joining paysites. Yes you still make some money. But for affiliates they are having to generate 100,000 to 200,000 or more pageviews on their site before they make a sale.
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Some affiliates, but that is their problem. Maybe they are pushing the wrong sponsors, or don't know their traffic, or simply don't know what they are doing. Or maybe that's just the way it is now. Whatever the case, deal with it and focus on where you can make money right now.
$5 Submissions made a great simple post the other day about if 20% of what you work on brings in the money, and 80% doesn't, then focus on that 20%. As simple as that is, that is the absolute truth. I'm sure there is something that you're doing online that is working and giving you better results, focus on those things, or that one single site. Find one strength and build on that. Scale that one strength. Then do it again.
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Originally Posted by signupdamnit
It's like a broken record. It's completely different for a sponsor than an affiliate. If you make 200,000 page views on your paysite tour page then you're probably doing great. If an affiliate makes 200,000 page views on their site and does nothing else but send traffic to your paysite then the odds are that they are having Top Ramen tonight.
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Program owners are affiliates too ya know. While I don't live or die by my affiliate sales, with the exception of cams, my ratios are decent enough to most sites.
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Originally Posted by signupdamnit
If you can't understand that then go back and read page one again until you do. It's amazing how many people can't seem to grasp this.
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Oh, I understand it. I am a site owner and an affiliate. I understand it perfectly. It's harder to make sales today than it was 13 years ago and the numbers are worse for many people. OK, now we know that, so lets move on and focus on where we can make sales today. Pandora's box is open. I'd love for it to shut but it's not going to.
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Originally Posted by signupdamnit
It's not a choice between being a paysite affiliate and finding another job. There are other things to do both inside and outside of the industry. That is what I am trying to convey to other affiliates. That maybe it's time to quit banging your head against the wall if you're still doing that. No one ever explained it to me that I was having to make 200,000 page views to make a sale. In the past I was stuck on ratios. It never occurred to me how bad it really was.
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There is money to be made all over the internet. Get in where you fit in and go make it. If your numbers stink in one area and you can't figure out how to fix it, do something else. If you're not OK with having to make 200,000 page views to make a sale, then you had better do something about it, and fast.
Yes, numbers are a lot different today than they were in 1999, but what did you expect? The entire world has changed in the past decade, did you think the porn business and stats wouldn't?