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Old 06-03-2013, 11:55 AM  
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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon View Post
i just think that someone of your size couldn't begin to imagine the problems facing an affiliate who makes 3-5k a month (if they're lucky). sure you work with affiliates but its not comparable in my opinion. i saw the writing on the wall back in 2004 that affiliates were being pushed out and the hey days were gone so i moved on for the most part.

however for affiliates today unless you're going to stoop to stealing content, the only content affiliates have to work with is the same content all affiliates have to work with. only tubes and affiliates who can play the blackhat seo game really well do good these days. if you really think its better now than it was in 99....there is obviously no point in even discussing it.
Again, you make unfounded assumptions about us. We have the ability to provide our affiliates with exclusive content. You are not our affiliate so you don't know that but I would appreciate if you didn't generalize us with the mass of generic programs out there with ho-hum content, zero branding, bad service, etc.

We had a much tougher time supporting affiliates in 2004, due to multiple factors. I look back on that time and only have regrets. For us, it truly is better and I don't care if you choose to believe me or not. We went from 1:20000 a few years back to 1:300 to 1:500 on tubes. If you don't believe that is possible or that I am lying then you need to come up with a better assumption why we are still around. If you ask those particular sponsors and or affiliates for a reason they will tell you it is because we have worked harder and smarter than most of the companies they work with.

Traffic is easier to get now as far as we are concerned. Converting it in the proper "join funnel" is the "magic" that is not so much of a mystery as it is a matter of hard work and strong analytics.

Oh, by the way, Homegrown just got listed at Rabbits as a top site so maybe you should start to reconsider the "I don't see you guys anywhere" chide.
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