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  • Muffy
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2001
    • 494
    #51
    Thanks for the support from most of you!!!

    And to answer everyone's questions: YES...it costs a hell of a lot of money to go public in legal fees, etc. ...BUT the good news is that we made it...which is the first step. So, I'm happy for now...I'll keep everyone posted

    Cheers,

    Muffy


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      • marty
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2002
        • 1656
        #52
        good luck to anyone who has made it that far

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          • SNIPER
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2001
            • 410
            #53
            Public or Private company it is still a great success when you reach the goal that you have been working for 2 1/2 years to achieve.
            I applaud everyone that has a private business and feels that they are reaching the goals they set out for in the beginning. Continue the success, and let's ride this wave.
            Last edited by SNIPER; 04-11-2002, 07:53 AM.


            Face Like and Angel, but Makes More Deals than the Devil }:-)

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              • ServerGenius
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2002
                • 9377
                #54
                Congratulations Muffy wish you all the luck dude!

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                  • RaGe
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 1158
                    #55
                    Congrats Muffy =)

                    Ignore those guys, going public as an adult company is impressive by itself..
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                      • Pornwolf
                        Drunk and Unruly
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 22712
                        #56
                        Congrats Muffy! I see a lot of hard work has been done on your part. You are doing good things for the adult biz as a whole (especially if you can get that stock price up!) Good Luck!
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                          • FreeNetPass Steve
                            Confirmed User
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 442
                            #57
                            Congrats on your move. It's always interesting to see an adult bidness go public.

                            Do you have a response to Lesman's question?
                            Originally posted by Lensman
                            Congrats on the IPO, even if it's small market. It will be interesting to watch. Adult IPOs are good for our business.

                            I was looking at your financials at http://www.digitalrooster.com/first02.html and it looks like you are losing lots of money and have no cash.

                            What's up with that?
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                              • Muffy
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 494
                                #58
                                Originally posted by FreeNetPass Steve

                                Do you have a response to Lesman's question?
                                As I stated earlier, it is very, very costly to try to go public, especially when you had to work for 2 1/2 years at it...the lawyers fees, accounting fees, and marketing costs are immense.


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                                  • Backov
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2001
                                    • 1600
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by Lensman
                                    Congrats on the IPO, even if it's small market. It will be interesting to watch. Adult IPOs are good for our business.

                                    I was looking at your financials at http://www.digitalrooster.com/first02.html and it looks like you are losing lots of money and have no cash.

                                    What's up with that?
                                    The way I read that. the majority of the costs are "Administration" read "Big Ass Salaries".. It would be interesting to see how many employees it takes to use up $386,176 worth of salary in 3 months.

                                    Cheers,
                                    Backov
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                                      • Muffy
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 494
                                        #60
                                        it's up to $0.30 now ...

                                        and NO there are no big ass salaries here....we have a lot of employees here who have worked very hard over the last few years to support the company in it's quest to go public. I have mentioned before where our big costs lie.


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                                          • Backov
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2001
                                            • 1600
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by Muffy
                                            it's up to $0.30 now ...

                                            and NO there are no big ass salaries here....we have a lot of employees here who have worked very hard over the last few years to support the company in it's quest to go public. I have mentioned before where our big costs lie.
                                            Cool beans. Good luck with it, and congrats on going public. I know it can be an utter pain.

                                            Cheers,
                                            Backov
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                                              • zip
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 567
                                                #62
                                                I want to buy some stocks.... how do I do that?

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                                                  • FlyingIguana
                                                    aspiring banker
                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                    • 10870
                                                    #63
                                                    get a broker

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                                                      • wired1
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                        • 279
                                                        #64
                                                        Congrats Muffy!

                                                        Thats a great achievement. Best of luck...

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                                                          • stangster
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 1126
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by Muffy
                                                            it's up to $0.30 now ...
                                                            $0.10 cents now..

                                                            DGROF
                                                            Last edited by stangster; 04-11-2002, 11:43 AM.
                                                            Never give up.. Never surrender.

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                                                              • -=HUNGRYMAN=-
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                • 4751
                                                                #66
                                                                You pessamistic haters never fail to amaze me ???

                                                                How many people who posted here are publicly traded ?
                                                                I rest my case ...

                                                                I have known Muffy personally for some time now ... and as well as being a total babe, she is a super person, and works for a super company ...

                                                                Digital Rooster is the parent company to WEB DREAM and various other smaller entities ... anybody who's been around more than a year, has probably seen, or if not used Web Dream's BUDAPEST LIVE cam feeds .... (oh yeah ... )

                                                                First Publicly traded porn DOT COM in canada IS something to be proud of ... Congrats Muffy, Alecks, and everybody else at DR !!

                                                                Hey Meredith ... How was Italy ?? Drinks on me one night, and you can tel me all about it ...

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                                                                  • SNIPER
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                    • 410
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Hey Hungryman,

                                                                    Thanks for the support

                                                                    ...and yes it did go to 10 cents today but it went back up to 26 for closing.

                                                                    We have been working hard to add new content, free content, redesigning our sites, and adding new partnership programs that have been converting very well for our webmasters.

                                                                    There is a lot more work adhead of us, but we are ready for it :-))


                                                                    Face Like and Angel, but Makes More Deals than the Devil }:-)

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                                                                      • FlyingIguana
                                                                        aspiring banker
                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                        • 10870
                                                                        #68
                                                                        26 cents, time to short

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                                                                          • Jer
                                                                            God is Brazilian
                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                            • 10601
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Congratulations Muffy !

                                                                            It's really good to see adult companies going public. My best whishes!

                                                                            Jer

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                                                                              • Muffy
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                • 494
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Thanks Hungryman!!!

                                                                                You are the eternal sweetie *hugs and kisses*

                                                                                Ciao,

                                                                                Muffy


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                                                                                  • zip
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                    • 567
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    No seriously, I want to buy some stocks.. how do I do that? Or should I say, is it possible?

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                                                                                      • Muffy
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                        • 494
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Of course it is possible...just contact any broker and they will be able to help you do that....there are lots of online brokers too...


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                                                                                          • RaGe
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                                            • 1158
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Opened at $0.09 today, had a late surge and closed at $0.17..

                                                                                            Nice
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                                                                                              • pr0
                                                                                                rockin tha trailerpark
                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                • 23088
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Awsome....i wish you guys good luck...its always cool to see people excited about their business
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                                                                                                  • SNIPER
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                                                    • 410
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Thanks again for your support .


                                                                                                    Face Like and Angel, but Makes More Deals than the Devil }:-)

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                                                                                                      • wired1
                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                                                        • 279
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by RaGe
                                                                                                        Opened at $0.09 today...
                                                                                                        BUY!!!


                                                                                                        Originally posted by Muffy
                                                                                                        it's up to $0.30 now ...
                                                                                                        SELL!!!

                                                                                                        jk/ good luck with the going public Muffy...

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                                                                                                          • JConway
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                                                                            • 594
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Good job!! I would be bragging if my company went public also.

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                                                                                                              • Lensman
                                                                                                                GFY Chaperone
                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                • 9846
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Still around 15 cents, come on, let's see something happen. Make us proud.

                                                                                                                http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?p...selected=DGROF

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                                                                                                                  • RaGe
                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                    • 1158
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    I'd buy some shares, but I don't have any money.
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                                                                                                                      • Lensman
                                                                                                                        GFY Chaperone
                                                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                        • 9846
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Update: things aren't looking too good.

                                                                                                                        http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?p...s&symbol=DGROF

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                                                                                                                          • JFPdude
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                            • 4027
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                                                                            Update: things aren't looking too good.

                                                                                                                            http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?p...s&symbol=DGROF
                                                                                                                            Thats to bad I was hoping for better results ... Live and learn though

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                                                                                                                              • pipp
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                • 1185
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                                                                                Update: things aren't looking too good.

                                                                                                                                http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?p...s&symbol=DGROF
                                                                                                                                Well it isnt like their the only ones going downhill at the moment good day yesterday though

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                                                                                                                                  • sexpress
                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                                                                    • 621
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    What do you think about Private then, PRVT ?

                                                                                                                                    I was going to buy shares a year ago, but decided to wait, now I am glad I did not buy. It was all uphill for Private some years ago, but starting from a year ago it was all downhill... wonder why!!!

                                                                                                                                    I love their products and their strategies, I am still waiting for the right moment to buy...
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                                                                                                                                      • MiLo
                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 2970
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        i just went pubic...
                                                                                                                                        ICQ: 9203112

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                                                                                                                                          • Muffy
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                            • 494
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            We are still surviving this turbulent market. We have released a lot of promising news with more to come, and we have some new people on board (market makers, etc. ) that are helping us with our endeavor.

                                                                                                                                            We are expecting big things

                                                                                                                                            Muffy
                                                                                                                                            Last edited by Muffy; 07-25-2002, 07:38 AM.


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                                                                                                                                              • archer
                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 1721
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Muffy
                                                                                                                                                And sure guys...here are some of our most popular sites:

                                                                                                                                                Brand new site:
                                                                                                                                                http://www.sexygreen.com

                                                                                                                                                http://www.sinpass.com
                                                                                                                                                http://www.sinteens.com
                                                                                                                                                http://www.manrush.com
                                                                                                                                                hey Muffy... don't let the naysayers get ya down.... i took a quick look and was impressed.

                                                                                                                                                who did the design for digital roosters...

                                                                                                                                                too bad you're only hiring in Toronto....

                                                                                                                                                sigh... i live in Vancouver.... and I cant leave paradise!

                                                                                                                                                keep it up
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                                                                                                                                                  • mrthumbs
                                                                                                                                                    salad tossing sig guy
                                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                    • 11702
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Archer: i don't think DigitalRooster's clients are waiting for
                                                                                                                                                    huge gay signatures..

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                                                                                                                                                      • Muffy
                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 494
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by archer



                                                                                                                                                        who did the design for digital roosters...
                                                                                                                                                        We have a team of inhouse designers here that do all of our site design...we have a great mix of talent.


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                                                                                                                                                          • BVF
                                                                                                                                                            Black Vagina Finder
                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                            • 13975
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-
                                                                                                                                                            I have known Muffy personally for some time now ... and as well as being a total babe, she is a super person, and works for a super company ...
                                                                                                                                                            Total Assets
                                                                                                                                                            $651,986
                                                                                                                                                            down from over 1 mil last year

                                                                                                                                                            Total Liabilities
                                                                                                                                                            $1,016,091
                                                                                                                                                            up from 473,000 last year

                                                                                                                                                            But I'm sure that the wise and prudent investor totally ignores these financials because she's such a "babe" and a "super person"

                                                                                                                                                            There have been losses for all three years. Maybe it's just me, but I think that somebody would want to work 2+ years for PROFIT, not for a public listing. It must take hella work to get listed but there are people sitting in their living room promoting penis pills that are making thousands a month and have profitability. I just don't see how you can lose money in porn in the first place and if you are losing money, I don't see how having investors scrutinizing your books and pressing you for stock rises is going to help.

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                                                                                                                                                              • Muffy
                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 494
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Companies go public for a reason...to raise capital, mergers, aquisitions, etc. In this specific instance with NEW product
                                                                                                                                                                launches...bottom line is potential, future and growth. The company is not turning a profit right now and that is not the primary concern, the company could restructure and turn a profit tomorrow...but I am sure as you say "the wise and prudent investor" stayed away from all companies losing money in
                                                                                                                                                                it's early stages like Microsoft, Cisco, etc. It is all about potential and growth and in product development stages sometimes you need to take a step back before you move forward.


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                                                                                                                                                                  • Sharky
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                    • 4938
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Does Lex still own Web dream?

                                                                                                                                                                    I used to talk to him all the time, and we have lost touch over the years!

                                                                                                                                                                    Send him My regards if he's there!
                                                                                                                                                                    Sharky

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                                                                                                                                                                      • Muffy
                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                        • 494
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Lex is still the big guy around here...I will tell him that you said hi

                                                                                                                                                                        Muffy


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                                                                                                                                                                          • SykkBoy2
                                                                                                                                                                            Jesus loves bacon
                                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                            • 19969
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-

                                                                                                                                                                            I have known Muffy personally for some time now ... and as well as being a total babe
                                                                                                                                                                            so, if she was ugly, then could we hate on her?

                                                                                                                                                                            don't make me whip out the bulging crotch accusations again ;))))
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                                                                                                                                                                              • MrBrian
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                • 1215
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                instead of buying a happy meal, i bought 50k shares of stock this morning :D

                                                                                                                                                                                lol just teasing...congrats
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Sharky
                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 4938
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Muffy -

                                                                                                                                                                                    can you send him my ICQ 1242876 ?

                                                                                                                                                                                    thanks
                                                                                                                                                                                    Sharky

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • RK
                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 868
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        went up 33.33% today, not bad.
                                                                                                                                                                                        maybe I'll buy some later, right now the transaction fees are higher than potential profit.
                                                                                                                                                                                        Does anyone look down here?

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Muffy
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 494
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by SykkBoy2


                                                                                                                                                                                            so, if she was ugly, then could we hate on her?
                                                                                                                                                                                            You can hate on me if you want to...hahaha...


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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Morgan
                                                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 10520
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                error
                                                                                                                                                                                                Last edited by Morgan; 07-25-2002, 11:20 AM.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • SykkBoy2
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Jesus loves bacon
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 19969
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Muffy


                                                                                                                                                                                                    You can hate on me if you want to...hahaha...
                                                                                                                                                                                                    nah, I don't hate anybody...except that goddamned Shok....oh yeah and cyberpunk, he's such a little bitch and that prick mastamindz, oh yeah and that "Friends" chick....well I kinda hate Justin Timberlake too and I'm not a big fan of Ken Wiederhorn...and I gues I also hate elephant bukkake...

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I just don't think that we have to necessarily be nice to someone just because they are a babe....that's kinda unfair to the non-babes
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • foe
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 5246
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
                                                                                                                                                                                                        This isn't even listed on the NASDAQ. This is over the counter penny stock garbage.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        No offense, but I'd be really embarrassed being part of a company that's selling stock at 25 cents a share.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        so is worldcom there is nothing to be embarrassed about

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