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Originally Posted by Nathan
I was in Berlin at an exclusive startup / internet / VC meeting on thursday and it got me to thinking and actually to discuss with my brother about a few things... it kinda fits here so I thought I would share...
A lot of startups today take the internet and use it for something that already existed before but makes it easier, more efficient, and cheaper for the user of the service. If it works, it also makes it very hard for the 'old' model to compete against it. It means there is less money made overall in the vertical but it also means that the people that still make money are making a lot more than individual players did before. So the people that do the 'innovation' do not care, since they are very happy. It is the others, the old people in that market, that care, since they lose out.
For example the online ad space. The amount of money spent per ad by advertisers online, is a JOKE compared to TV. The total amount of money made by online TV services is also a joke compared to the rest of the TV/Hollywood sector. If the development would continue as it does right now, at some point, hollywood would not make enough money anymore to create content, which would result in online to break too.
But obviously this is not going to happen. Why is that? Because it never happened in the past. Sure, industries died, but its not because they were wanted but made no more money, it was because people were not interested in them anymore.
Innovation also always had the effect that the internet has had the past 10 years. Just think of the industrial revolution. I bet there were a TON of people pissed off at the new industrial companies building big factories, looking evil to them. But today, nobody cares much anymore. It was a necessary evil to growth of mankind.
I see the development of the adult industry similar. 'Free' is a typical thing online. It has shaped what online is and does. And it works. Why does it work? Because there are fewer companies today, that make a lot more money than the many more single companies did before. And I am talking profits, not revenue. Who in the end cares about revenue?
People might not like how it got to this point, but this is where we are. Haters existed always in every 'revolution', and the internet revolution will not be different. They also usually changed the way people thought about certain rules and laws or at least made certain laws develop into new iterations. I know why DMCA exists, and it makes sense to me. We will see how it gets changed in the years to come, but this is part of progress, and of course not everybody likes it, but we all have to live with it, so make the best out of it you can. That's how I see it.
BTW, I disagree with NewNick, this board is NOT an affiliate board, it is an industry board. There just are 10 or so people on this board that ARE affiliates that are VERY vocal when it comes to tube sites. And this thread shows it yet again, it is the same exact people complaining as always. But you also find quite a few people with positive remarks, and people not posting a lot at that.
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Hello Nathan.
With regards to how the internet changes businesses by innovation and makes things easier, more efficient, and cheaper. That is not the reason why peeps here attack the tube owners/business model. DMCA created the "innovation" as you well know. A fabulous piece of regulation. You can steal anything you want as long as you give it back if you owner fills in the correct form. In the meantime it's your asset to make as much revenue as possible before you have to give it back. Then comes the best bit - you can simply steal it again !
So again another mistake lots of peeps like yourself and the OP make. You talk about exclusive venture capital meetings, debating the philosophical nature of internet revolutions, high level stuff - but to lots of people here the empire is on the backs of those that originally paid to create the content that populated your tubes. So they find it insulting. Let be honest here - Amazon innovated and changed the the book printing, publishing and distribution industry forever. If you used to work in a book printing business you have every right to be pissed off that the Kindle destroyed your livelihood. Whereas the "innovation" of the tube model was that you can build a porn business without paying for content. Brilliant !
So the tube "revolution" is not about clever new technology, not about more efficient delivery methods. Take the cost of sales out of the top line and the bottom line is very impressive indeed. Please lets call a spade a spade.
Now I don't care about the affiliate model, I dont run a paysite or create piratable content. I dont even agree with those who attack you and the OP. But I have read this board for long enough to understand the emotions of those that do attack you.
Finally, yes you are right Nathan, its not an affiliate board anymore. That model barely exists anymore.....