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Originally Posted by beaner
Hi, back again.
First off, I am sure you are a nice guy ;) Just wanted to get that out of the way.
Now, let's talk numbers since you are.
You said 90% of traffic is from tubes you upload to. 600K*.9 = 540K. For every click, you get 2 type ins.
That means, you are getting around 360K people typing in the name of 1 of your sites per day. That is incredible, got a screenshot?
And maintaining 8 million views per day on all the tubes is out of this world. Imagine if those views were actually visits on your site? ;)
Let's say 8 million views = 2 million uniques (what is that number by the way?). So 2 million uniques. On your paysite... that would be about 5000 sales a day. Now just think about that for a second...
Back to current model, that's a lot of free views to sales ratio. Kinda see what i'm getting at? Bad model from the start, bad model till it ends.
Tubes don't need the sales though... that is just stocking stuffers (you said that). But they sure as hell need the content. Hence, the argument, devaluation of content.
What if someone came up with a tube/paysite that was popular like youporn, and funneled all the traffic to purchase a membership? ;)
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Can you imagine the treads i'd be starting if I got 8m visitors a day to my paysite network a day? And yes, the free views to visitor ratios, of course I would like these higher, but I launched my company on the back of those numbers. I know how to get views on my clips, making use of the keywords, tags and titles so I show up in more search results on those tubes (this is better optimised traffic of course as a user has actually searched for something specific). Once the viewer of that clip clicks on the CPP banner, then its over to me to convert them to a member. I have taken on board what Mr Peabody noted about my sites with their design/text and of course my join page design. I learn every day, and do take on advice, even in a hostile environment like GFY.
I actually like your business method and how you are looking to do JudoPorn. I participated in a "similar" concept last year where I gave them my full HD scenes from one of my brands. The sales ratio was very good, and retention was great, however, you are only as successful as your traffic. And like I, if you dont see the $$$ coming as quickly as you hoped, then as a studio, you simply give up and move on to other concepts that you hope will bring revenues quicker for the same effort. If you get the first studio partners working with you until and dedicated to the cause, and then shout about the $$$, then you may just have a winner on your hands. And believe me, if you get that studio to work with you, and you make a success of it, the floodgates will open. If its a proven concept, you'll have my 10 brands knocking on your door. This is actually what happened with the YouPorn CPP. Naughty America and CD Girls were our "proof of concept". That was march 2007. April 2007, the flood gates opened, and that was that. Maybe you would be interested in me being one of the founding studios on JudoPorn?
On that note, I wanted to quantify what I wrote in a previous thread about the revenues a tube generates from a CPP program which may have been misinterpreted. The revenues from a CPP are significant to the bottom line, but are not in the top 3 of revenues generated by a tube. But they are significant. And you see this by just how many content owners are uploading to the tubes on a daily basis to get those aff revenues and direct type in sales.
And dont read into this next sentence any more than what it actually is meant to say: I have heeded the advice of my friends in the industry and I am no longer going to be giving out any numbers or stats on GFY. Simply because, when I do, I spend the rest of the day putting out fires, and I actually want to try to enjoy GFY again, as I did before I posted this thread. And I started this thread because I was genuinely chuffed with my team and myself for getting the highest ever new entry for a brand new site on a tube. And that tube means more to me than anyone could ever imagine... YouPorn.com.