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Originally Posted by kane
Anyway, I'm rambling on here. In the end, I was basically trying to say that I thought your assessment of how easy it is to get a job was a little over simplified, but I do agree with you that people need to take responsibility for themselves and those who do that and work hard are normally the ones who get the jobs and find success.
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I always enjoy reading your posts and seeing you express your views. You are one of the few articulate people here who can make a well reasoned point.
I wasn't really trying to paint it as a black and white picture. I was more trying to say "there's this whole other side that never gets addressed". No one is saying "hey, we expect more from you" or "we expect better from you" anymore. Suddenly every person is a star and expecting to go through life being treated as such.... and worse, confused when it isn't happening.
What I dislike is the idea that some external thing causes ones own success or failure in life. True or not, thinking like that or believing that in itself is a recipe for failure. That's the catch-22 of helping vs hurting. There are no billionaires, olympic athletes or multiplatinum artists talking about "hey man, i never had to try". In fact, no one that is successful is going to say "yeah, its all just luck" as they know its about attitude, determination and hard work.
Man,... about schools... I would love to tell you a story about a personal experience recently that was just blowing me away but it would have to be in private. The teacher herself, was barely literate. Really a wake up call in terms of where this nation is at with public education. Of course, then again,.... we can't call a bunch of unionized teachers worthless or a school system horrible without being attacked and being told we simply don't throw enough money at the problem. Somehow a university can have one teacher in front of 800 students doing their jobs and we can't get public schools to the point that teachers are standing up in front of 30 students and doing their jobs.