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Originally Posted by Gozarian
As one who has lived in a former eastern bloc country for many years, to put it nicely Cherry7, you are full of shit. Yes people had jobs but the vast majority were not able to choose their work. If you failed to show for your assigned job the police would come to your home and physically remove you and take you to work. Your choices of where to purchase what little food that was available were limited to the party approved store in your area; usually only one. Milk, bread, butter, cooking oil, sugar, pork, beef, chicken and potatoes were routinely rationed. Electricity and heat were rationed or simply cut off for hours on end. We had only one television station that played party BS and cartoons. Nobody trusted anyboy because all your neighbors were informants to the secret police and your phone was tapped. Thousands of people just went missing; most likely murdered bu the state. Women were forced to have 2 children unless they had a C-section therefore almost all the women paid bribes to the doctor to receive a C-section. If you lived in the village and were lucky enough to have your own animals, when that animal gave birth you would be imprisioned if you fed yourself rather that sell the animal to the state for coins. Cars were only for high ranking party officials. People joined the party in the hope that the largesse of the potilicos would fall to them, although it never did. Oh we long for those days.
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Sound pretty terrible and I do not defend what happened in Romania, but I lived in Poland and Britain and I saw that was a great deal to be said for the regime in Poland. It had work and housing for everyone, free education and health care for all. It also had an open society in which books films and plays were shown from all over the World. All Poles had seen life in America on film. How many Americans have watched Russian or Polish films?
the system had a lot of faults and I got into trouble while I lived there for protesting about it, I was arrestes and deported. But I have been arrested in Britain too, I have seen how poor people are fucked over here and how the system is design to exploit people.
Free travel is a great thing, but just as the Communist regimes were wrong to stop people traveling, remember the the majority of people can't travel because they are prevented to enter the USA or Europe, in fact thousands die trying.
I think America has very many positive democratic achievements, they should be part of any future good society, but that society would also have a lot of what the Communist countries tried to do..
Housing for all, jobs for all, cheap heating and basic food, clean water, free health care.