Originally Posted by Biggy

There are plenty of still living Holocaust survivors who tell their stories. And their personal stories and recollections corroborate most of what we think about the Holocaust and none of what you say. I don't doubt that diseases couldn't have ravaged the camps, but so did starvation, random executions, gas showers, so on and so forth.

It's like Lance Armstrong and steroids, where there's smoke there is fire.

I guess the living survivors of Auschwitz, Dachau, Warsaw Ghetto, etc. all conspired to tell a different story? There are massive organizations out there that still hunt Nazi war criminals to this day, but it was only a few rogue guys? I think in reality you might be taking some evidence and giving it your own meaning which is far from the truth...

What say you? Are all those living survivors lying or mis-stating the truth?

For the record my gf went to the LA holocaust museum yesterday. There was a random speaker / Holocaust survivor. He talked in detail of the gas chamber. He came from a fairly large family and only him and his mother survived. He was a 9 year old when he entered the camp and only survived by being a run-errand boy.

If you doubt it, go to a Holocaust museum. There are plenty, buildings full of evidence.

And yes, others got it really bad as well including the Russians. And when the Russians entered Germany, the German civilians got it bad as well for payback, including the who knows how many German soldiers who were captured in Russia that never returned. Moreover I am reading a book right now that said the Nazis came to power with only 44% of the vote, and then the Nazis outlawed all other political parties. Many of the soldiers forced to serve / fight, really didn't have a choice, and never even really supported "The Party." Most of the airmen in the Luftwaffe (German Air Force) weren't even supporters of Hitler, and were pretty open about not liking him, but still felt they had to protect their homeland.