Originally Posted by Robbie

I don't need to defend anything. I pointed out that it's all pretty clear on the page.

I also pointed out that it's easy for the surfer to get their money back if they are so naive and out of touch that they've never seen that kind of marketing before:
For instance I posted about the Kintetico Water System that had a 10 day FREE trial..and then I paid $3600
I didn't consider that a "scam", just marketing. Same with a Dyson air cleaner I bought a few months ago. It was "Free" and then I started making payments on it 30 days later. lol.

I also have a "Bill Me Later" account through PayPal. It's advertised as 6 months (12 months for bigger purchases) NO INTEREST!!!
What they don't tell you is that if you don't pay it all off in 6 months that you then get nailed for all the previous month's interest.

It's just basic marketing....but as I also said, if you have a site (like I feel I do) that is a great value on it's own, then you don't need to use x-sales of any kind.

Now a few years ago when sites started doing hidden x-sales and even were putting a NEW hidden x-sale on the cancel page...THAT was a scam and very, very shady.

The join page you are showing doesn't look bad to me at all.
And if there is any human being over the age of 12 who hasn't seen and understands x-sales, bonus offer, and "free" trials I would be surprised. They must have been living under a rock or something.
Everybody does it in "real" life and online. Not just "adult" sites.