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Old 01-15-2013, 12:16 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer View Post
Who cares? Born however doesn't mean you can't control your actions and behavior just as we all must. First message should always be "too fucking bad, we're watching you"... not "Oh, its not your fault..." I'm tired of a society that's increasingly relying on the "its not my fault" explanation for everything and always always being handed an easy and convenient excuse.

Also, your comment is like saying "all gays are genetically gay", which ignores all other components and the degree to which they are present or absent. All psychological issues, afflictions, disorders etc are complex and most often multifaceted and equally complex in their root causes.
Part of the problem many of these people have is the inability to control their actions. I'm not dismissing their actions nor am I making excuses or forgiving them, I'm just trying to understand why they do what they do. Is it the alcoholic's fault they are an alcoholic? No. But it is their fault when they know they are an alcoholic and they know what triggers them to want to drink and they still put themselves into those situations? Yes. So I wonder what it is in a person that has them put themselves in those situations time and again.

As for all gays being genetically gay, well, I believe that is likely the case. Are there a small number of people out there who choose that life or choose to experiment? Sure, it is possible, but even with them there is something in them that is at least partially gay. I am a pretty laid back, open-minded guy, but the idea of having sex with another man is something I simply would be physically incapable of doing. There has to be something genetic in a person that leads them to being open to that kind of thing.

Yes, it is all complex and I can't claim to have all the answers, but I do wonder what causes some people to act in certain ways and I think for many it is a hardwired, biological thing.
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