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Originally Posted by Far-L
To me, it is just starting to sound like all you really want is for it to be "easy", you know, like it was in the good ol' days...
I never said it was easy. I just say it is easier nowadays to figure out how to be a success because of the abundant cheap resources that make the barrier to entry very low. However, I never said it won't be about hard work.
Good luck, maybe for you the third time will be the charm.
I wish you luck but honestly, judging from this thread and your apparent willingness to buy into the easy "logic" of the sophists that are telling you what you want to hear, unfortunately I think you are more likely going to fail. Hope you prove me wrong.
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Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising
Agreed. It seems anyone with actual working knowledge of what works, because it isn't what people actually want to hear are just wasting their time/effort in sharing information, which is why I stopped responding in this thread, everyone is saying we're wrong, but not backing it up with any hard evidence other than the same old 'that isn't what we're talking about' rhetoric.
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You guys are really getting ridiculous. You two have a certain mentality about just how ?easy? (or difficult) it is for a newbie to enter the industry today, whereas myself (and apparently others too) see things differently. Perception and reality are not always the same. Go back and re-read the first few pages of this thread when nearly everyone was saying if you don?t already have traffic and/or a ton of experience don?t waste your time. So we?ll just have to agree to disagree here. When you start providing evidence of the influx of newbies launching successful pay sites then I?ll believe the hype.
And for the record, I never said I was planning on investing in adult again to begin with. The question was asked to get the ?truth? about the state of the industry as far as total beginners launching pay sites.
I?m about making money first and foremost. I never expect starting any business in any field to be ?easy?. But there?s a big difference between a market having fair odds and one having extremely difficult odds. It?s "possible" for anyone to make it to the pros from a minor league team, but the reality is that the odds of someone actually getting there that way are really stacked against you. There are a lot of great players out there don?t always even get an opportunity or a break. But I suppose people like you would say the ones that didn?t make it, it?s because they didn?t train hard enough, or didn?t have enough will to make it. Sometimes it?s a little more complicated than that, regardless of what industry you?re in. That?s all I?m trying to say.
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Originally Posted by beaner
I didn't read this thread, i'm sure their is plenty of great points and discussions.
I think opening up a site with the hopes that mad traffic will come because affiliates can't wait to promote and google will just love it... are over for the newbs.
I would say start up a bunch of free sites (all niche related), find a few that start to get organic traffic and turn them into a paysite. Now here is the trick, you need to turn it into a paysite *without* causing a huge drop in traffic.
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Sounds like another one against a newbies chances just starting out.
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies
True dat.
Back in the day you did not have the ease of WordPress, MechBunny, and alike. Many first generation porn sites were static pages done by hand. I think the only thing actually "easier" back then was conversions.
Now-a-days you have endless tools at your disposal.
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No one's disputing that. I feel like we're just going around in circles here arguing the same thing. My whole point was that sometimes you can have all the tools, do everything right, and still be unsuccessful. Perhaps there were just 1 too many pizza stands on the same block.