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Originally Posted by k0nr4d
I'm interested in hearing a rebuttle for this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate
I'm in Poland, which has very strict gun control. You have to pass psychological exams, when applying for a license you have to give reason you want it (if it's self defense, you need a letter from the police that your life is realistictally in danger IE you are a mafia informant or something to that effect), etc. All in all it's hard as fuck. As you can see on this chart the firearm murder rate is 0.02 murders per 100000 people per year. Now remember, Poland was a battleground during WW2 as you could imagine there was quite alot of guns here over the years. Hell, they found a 500kg bomb a couple of hundred meters from my house.
In the US, the firearm murder rate is 3.7 murders per 100k people per year.
So based on this - one could arrive at the conclusion that since guns are saving lives in the states according to the gun supporters, the US has 185x the murderers that Poland does per capita? That sounds like a *TERRIBLE* place to live. |
one of the reasons for that is a history of 'overthrowing the government and starting wars' in east euro that really hasn't happened in the USA so the gov here has been a lot more liberal on guns ownership + many or the US concepts of guns are from a time when there was much open territory.
for instance my great grandfather had to wear a gun in the field while plowing and tending animals. and a large amount of those gun killings are 'minority's' that we as American's are not allowed to mention, in fact I would say most of the gun murders are in fact just that.
"For example, San Mateo County, California had a population of approximately 707,000 and 17 homicides in 2001. Six of these 17 homicides took place in poor East Palo Alto, which had a population of roughly 30,000. So, while East Palo Alto accounted for a mere 4.2% of the population, about one-third of the homicides took place there."
here is this I found:
Poland’s murder rate one of lowest in EU
With 1.29 murders per 100,000 people Poland has one of the lowest homicide rate in the European Union, according to the Eurostat statistical office.
---this is a bit different than 0.02 per 100,000 that you have put up
Lithuania is the murder center of the EU, with nine homicides yearly for every 100,000 inhabitants, (that's 9.0 per 100,000 just in case which is more than double the stats you posted for the US)
followed by Estonia and Luxembourg, Belgium, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic and Finland.
Austria has the lowest homicide rate at 0.67.
Lithuanian and Estonian commentators say that most homicides are perpetrated at home and usually are the result of alcohol abuse, while generally the streets of cities are very safe.
here ya go:
UNODC murder rates most recent year
Africa 17.0 169,105
Americas 15.4 144,595
Asia 3.1 127,120
Europe 3.5 24,025
Oceania 2.9 1,180
World 6.9 466,078
North America, including Canada:
Northern America 3.9 13,558 Americas
Eastern Europe counting Poland:
Eastern Europe 6.4 19,072 Europe
you might want to a do a bit of research before you start putting up 'so called statistics'
