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Originally Posted by tony286
If you read it, its one sentence. If they just wanted everyone to own a gun. They wont of put in the first part. "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, "
And militia didnt mean the people, it meant militia. To protect the country and the government, not to rise up against the government. "being necessary to the security of a free state"
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Yes, the militia is the people, do you ever read history? Here are statements from the very people that wrote the constitution.
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for few public officials." (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426)
"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves...and include all men capable of bearing arms." (Richard Henry Lee, Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer (1788) at 169)
"On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." (Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322)
"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." (Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334,[C.J.Boyd, Ed., 1950])
"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." (Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment [ I Annals of Congress at 750 {August 17, 1789}])
"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms." (Tench Coxe in `Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution' under the Pseudonym `A Pennsylvanian' in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 at 2 col. 1)
"The Constitution shall never be construed....to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms" (Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87)
"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of The United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms..." (Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Peirce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850))
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- (Thomas Jefferson)
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Originally Posted by tony286
But you dont hear about 20 children killed with scissors because some nut ran into thee school with them.
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How about the 21 kids under the age of 16 that died at the hands of the BATF, FBI, national guard and the US Army at Waco Texas?
They didn't attack anyone, they were raided! 74 people, men, women and children were killed over what? Weapons Violations? They didn't find any illegal weapons!
They called in the Army for helicopters and tanks, a violation of federal law, they said they could because there was reported to have been a meth lab on the premises, they didn't find one. The FBI afterwards said there was never a question of drugs on the premises.
All because a bunch of nuts ( The Government Kind ) ran in there. This is the very reason we should not get rid of our rights to own guns. That happened under Clinton, same thing happened then, assault weapons ban. Go Figure?