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Originally Posted by DWB
And the thread takes another turn.
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The topic it is "tax evasion", and it was discussed by a minority of posters enough in detail to have most readers skip the full texts. There's not much to add on the topic, except to wait new german press releases and articles to translate.
But since the start, most posts are offtopic: "Fabian is not a real pornographer", "tube business model it works only if based on copyright theft", "everyone would have done better than Fabian if got a $360 million loan", "Fabian is too fat", and so on.
Fabian is out of jail but unlikely he will post here (even if he may read), simply as all what he posts will be re-published in most negative context as possible by german journalists.
So, offtopic level is now upgraded by targeting a couple of Dutch guys who are not running tubes and not into Cyprus tax schemas.
Further, the "Fabian Thylmann RELEASED from jail" thread it is competing, some guys bump this "jailed" and some the "released" threads, like a wish or bet what one will be the final to bump, next year.
To honor the GFY tradition of offtopic and sci-fi talks, let me write mine: if I had convinced a number of christian funds and republican banks to invest a few hundred million dollar in porn... no tubes! They're unstable as 1) legally questionable 2) easy to launch and copy by competitors, so 3) Short term.
I would have purchased instead all the biggest cam sites only, and not feared antitrust.
Use Alexa stats, see there's xhamster, xvideos and so many other no Manwin ones, all together get a multiple of the Manwin traffic, resold by exoclick and others, so I disagree that Manwin "dominates" even the tube traffic.
About content producers, if they all cry for lower sales every year, it means that's not where to invest for long term growth, I would have purchased no one.
About dating, someone may remember Manwin had SexInYourCity, and it was closed as soon as Mansef sold. This was wise: local (adult, ged laid) dating it is available for free with Plentyoffish, Badoo or even Facebook, even a manager of a big adult dating site told me as confidence in ICQ he thinks "there's no big future for paid porn facebooks".
Othererwise, the AFF stocks wouild do better, and they're another one with $250+ million loan debt, unsure they would have paid so much the affiliates (most of which was the early tubes, if you remember) otherwise. Funny enough you guys blame Fabian for tubes proliferation, but it was $250 million of AFF bank loan first, then $360 million of Manwin loan after, to feed tubes in various ways, so it was the christian banks really.
Of course I'm into cams so take my above offtopic as purposely not neutral.